Hi, I tried the video on Android 5.1 Lollipop (Samsung Galaxy S6) and it
was choppy and unreliable.

At this point in time, you might consider going with VP8 for the highest
compatibility. VP9 is still kind of bleeding edge.

As for the content:

* I think it's a great effort but editorially, I'd start right with the
Wikipedia-specific content without the (admittedly great) visual night sky.
The first minute of the video isn't really about Wikipedia.

* At 1:55 when I see "263 registered course instructions" I'm underwhelmed.
As someone who's active in the Wiki edu space, I said to myself, "I thought
there'd be more..." For higher impact, I'd say "less is more" and cut off
the list at administrators.

Good to see the effort being put into more video.

-Andrew


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok. In the meantime, is there a way to make the text that I just added to
> the video caption, "(If you want to view this video on an Android device,
> you might need to install the Wikipedia app from the Google Play store
> <https://play.google.com> and then use the app to view the video.)",
> appear only when the page is being viewed on Android?
>
> Pine
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing this is on
>>> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_5_million_articles_milestone_video_October_2015.webm
>>> ...
>>>
>>
>> whhops copy-paste error :D
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_million_articles
>>
>> -- brion
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ... in which case the problem is that inline/thumbnail usages of videos
>>> by default use a 'popup transform' that -- until currently desktop-only
>>> JavaScript is loaded -- is just a thumbnail image plus a link to the
>>> original file. (The code for the proper player is hidden away where it can
>>> be loaded into a popup window by the JS.)
>>>
>>> This is pretty awful on mobile at present, as the thumbnail does nothing
>>> when you click on it, while there's a 'play media' link that sends you to
>>> the highest-resolution file you could possibly download. This means you're
>>> trying to play a full HD 1920x1080 video from the original VP9 source,
>>> which while a great format can be somewhat CPU-intensive.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have some planned refactoring that should improve this by including a
>>> stripped-down player inline for the mobile/non-JS cases, but beware it
>>> wouldn't get deployed until sometime mid to late next week even if we hurry
>>> it. (We do not deploy on Fridays or weekends!)
>>>
>>> -- brion
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We don't yet have fully "on purpose" multimedia support on mobile -- eg
>>>> if it works at all, that's awesome. :) But it's probably sub-ideal in a
>>>> number of ways. (On iOS in particular we have *no* playback except in the
>>>> desktop mode due to Safari's lack of native WebM or Ogg support; the ogv.js
>>>> JavaScript playback has only been integrated on the desktop mode so far, as
>>>> we need to clean up TimedMediaHandler's JS-side code to run cleanly on
>>>> mobile... and not suck on desktop.)
>>>>
>>>> Questions:
>>>> * Are you viewing the File: page in a browser directly, or some page
>>>> that includes the file on it? (If the latter, which page?)
>>>> * Are you pressing the 'play' button on an image thumbnail, or clicking
>>>> the "download original file" link, or something else?
>>>> * What device are you using?
>>>> * What Android version are you running on?
>>>>
>>>> General issues:
>>>> * There's no manual resolution selection override in the user
>>>> interface, so you might be getting a high resolution file that's too slow
>>>> to decode.
>>>> * In Firefox in particular you may not be getting the benefit of
>>>> hardware acceleration for WebM video decoding.
>>>> * The 'Android default browser' may or may not exist on any given
>>>> device (many newer devices just have Chrome, so I can't test it locally on
>>>> my Nexus 5 or 5x).
>>>>
>>>> There may or may not be any 'fixes' we can make in a short term. Note
>>>> there are *no* WMF resources assigned to video at present, so things get
>>>> fixed only as someone interested in the topic gets to them.
>>>>
>>>> -- brion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just tried playing the video on Android. Good news, bad news:
>>>>>
>>>>> The video plays as expected in the Wikipedia app.
>>>>>
>>>>> The video has major problems playing in Firefox for Android and the
>>>>> default Android browser for mobile web.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone else please test those latter two configurations? If
>>>>> problems are confirmed, how long will a fix take, keeping in mind how 
>>>>> close
>>>>> we are (4,998,070 articles) to the 5M milestone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pine
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