Ok. In the meantime, is there a way to make the text that I just added to
the video caption, "(If you want to view this video on an Android device,
you might need to install the Wikipedia app from the Google Play store
<https://play.google.com> and then use the app to view the video.)", appear
only when the page is being viewed on Android?

Pine

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing this is on
>> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_5_million_articles_milestone_video_October_2015.webm
>> ...
>>
>
> whhops copy-paste error :D
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_million_articles
>
> -- brion
>
>
>>
>> ... in which case the problem is that inline/thumbnail usages of videos
>> by default use a 'popup transform' that -- until currently desktop-only
>> JavaScript is loaded -- is just a thumbnail image plus a link to the
>> original file. (The code for the proper player is hidden away where it can
>> be loaded into a popup window by the JS.)
>>
>> This is pretty awful on mobile at present, as the thumbnail does nothing
>> when you click on it, while there's a 'play media' link that sends you to
>> the highest-resolution file you could possibly download. This means you're
>> trying to play a full HD 1920x1080 video from the original VP9 source,
>> which while a great format can be somewhat CPU-intensive.
>>
>>
>> I have some planned refactoring that should improve this by including a
>> stripped-down player inline for the mobile/non-JS cases, but beware it
>> wouldn't get deployed until sometime mid to late next week even if we hurry
>> it. (We do not deploy on Fridays or weekends!)
>>
>> -- brion
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We don't yet have fully "on purpose" multimedia support on mobile -- eg
>>> if it works at all, that's awesome. :) But it's probably sub-ideal in a
>>> number of ways. (On iOS in particular we have *no* playback except in the
>>> desktop mode due to Safari's lack of native WebM or Ogg support; the ogv.js
>>> JavaScript playback has only been integrated on the desktop mode so far, as
>>> we need to clean up TimedMediaHandler's JS-side code to run cleanly on
>>> mobile... and not suck on desktop.)
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>> * Are you viewing the File: page in a browser directly, or some page
>>> that includes the file on it? (If the latter, which page?)
>>> * Are you pressing the 'play' button on an image thumbnail, or clicking
>>> the "download original file" link, or something else?
>>> * What device are you using?
>>> * What Android version are you running on?
>>>
>>> General issues:
>>> * There's no manual resolution selection override in the user interface,
>>> so you might be getting a high resolution file that's too slow to decode.
>>> * In Firefox in particular you may not be getting the benefit of
>>> hardware acceleration for WebM video decoding.
>>> * The 'Android default browser' may or may not exist on any given device
>>> (many newer devices just have Chrome, so I can't test it locally on my
>>> Nexus 5 or 5x).
>>>
>>> There may or may not be any 'fixes' we can make in a short term. Note
>>> there are *no* WMF resources assigned to video at present, so things get
>>> fixed only as someone interested in the topic gets to them.
>>>
>>> -- brion
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just tried playing the video on Android. Good news, bad news:
>>>>
>>>> The video plays as expected in the Wikipedia app.
>>>>
>>>> The video has major problems playing in Firefox for Android and the
>>>> default Android browser for mobile web.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone else please test those latter two configurations? If
>>>> problems are confirmed, how long will a fix take, keeping in mind how close
>>>> we are (4,998,070 articles) to the 5M milestone?
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
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