Hmmm, my understanding of the GPL we adopted was that it only applied to
the source of RTcmix, _not_ to the 'enclosing' app.  The way we set up the 
iRTcmix
apps, we have a 'manager' class (source provided) that calls into the RTcmix
engine.  Any mods you would make to the RTcmix source *proper* would
need to be published, but the app you develop that uses it would not.

I honestly thought I had put up the source for iLooch (it's in the next
iRTcmix release), but it looks like the link on the web page is only
to the iRTcmix source.  Which is what would attach to your app, I *think*.

brad


On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Morgan Packard wrote:

> Thanks Brad,
> 
> Just bought ilooch. Lovely stuff. Unless I'm mistaken though, I'm
> required to make my source code publicly available if I embed RT CMix
> because it's licensed under the GPL. I swear, I'm not an _entirely_
> evil person, but for a few reasons, I don't think it's going to be
> possible to open-source my app. However, the fact that I'm running in
> to this GPL license again and again does make me think that maybe I
> should reconsider this and see if maybe I can talk myself (and my
> programming partner) in to it. Though, now that I look, I don't see
> the iLooch source code posted anywhere.
> 
> Can you confirm that RT Cmix is an option only if I make the source
> code to my app publicly available?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -Morgan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Brad Garton <gar...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>> No, it's usable.  I have an app already in the App store:
>> 
>>                http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/ilooch/
>> 
>> We have a new release up in the next few days.
>> 
>> brad
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:25 PM, douglas repetto wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Brad Garton has RTcmix running on the iPhone:
>>> 
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/iRTcmix/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dunno what the license is though...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/7/11 8:09 PM, Morgan Packard wrote:
>>>> (First post to this list. Sent this a few days ago and it doesn't seem
>>>> to have gone through, so trying again.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi There,
>>>> I've been writing low-level code for my iOS app, Thicket, pretty much
>>>> myself, with the exception of a sine oscillator and an envelope
>>>> borrowed from STK. I'd like to be able to work on this platform in a
>>>> much faster way than I have been, simply plugging unit generators in
>>>> to one another, not having to stop and think about how to, for
>>>> example, go from a mono oscillator signal to a stereo reverb signal.
>>>> I'd like to be able to work more like I work in SuperCollider, writing
>>>> higher-level code to create a "signal path", trusting that the
>>>> connections will be efficiently managed for me.  In other words, I'd
>>>> like to spend a little less time being a fairly incompetent engineer,
>>>> and more time being a halfway-decent artist.  I'm finding that my list
>>>> of options is surprisingly small
>>>> SuperCollider -- GPL licence, would require that I open-source my app
>>>> ChucK -- GPL license, would require that I open-source my app
>>>> CSound -- the FAQ indicates that I need to make arrangements with MIT
>>>> to put it to commercial use. Worth looking in to, perhaps.
>>>> JSyn -- java, not gonna work on iOS
>>>> MusicKit -- looks very interesting, but doesn't seem to be a very
>>>> active project, and I don't think anyone has gotten it running on iOS
>>>> yet
>>>> Pure Data -- seems like my best option. more permissive license, but
>>>> I'm wary of the visual programming paradigm, and have at least one
>>>> technical detail which is making me a bit uncomfortable
>>>> 
>>>> Am I missing something? Is there anything -- free, or not, which I
>>>> should look at for iOS development besides Pure Data? Are there not
>>>> hundreds of other people with the same needs that I have? Are my
>>>> options really limited to: Pure Data or rolling my own, or
>>>> open-sourcing my app?
>>>> I sincerely appreciate any info or thoughts any of you are able to
>>>> share with me.
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -Morgan
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