Yes, in fact I've been doing it for years (the rtcmix~ object for max/msp).
brad On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Morgan Packard wrote: > Brad, > > It seems there are a number of ways to interpret whether an > application which links to a GPL library must be open-sourced as well > (based on wikipedia's expert legal advice). But it's great news to me > that your interpretation is that RT CMix can be used in closed source > applications. Should I consider myself to have the blessing of the > controllers of RT Cmix make a billion dollars on the app store after > which I will continually express my gratitude in various material and > non-material ways? > > -Morgan > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Brad Garton <gar...@columbia.edu> wrote: >> Hmmm, my understanding of the GPL we adopted was that it only applied to >> the source of RTcmix, _not_ to the 'enclosing' app. The way we set up the >> iRTcmix >> apps, we have a 'manager' class (source provided) that calls into the RTcmix >> engine. Any mods you would make to the RTcmix source *proper* would >> need to be published, but the app you develop that uses it would not. >> >> I honestly thought I had put up the source for iLooch (it's in the next >> iRTcmix release), but it looks like the link on the web page is only >> to the iRTcmix source. Which is what would attach to your app, I *think*. >> >> brad >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Morgan Packard wrote: >> >>> Thanks Brad, >>> >>> Just bought ilooch. Lovely stuff. Unless I'm mistaken though, I'm >>> required to make my source code publicly available if I embed RT CMix >>> because it's licensed under the GPL. I swear, I'm not an _entirely_ >>> evil person, but for a few reasons, I don't think it's going to be >>> possible to open-source my app. However, the fact that I'm running in >>> to this GPL license again and again does make me think that maybe I >>> should reconsider this and see if maybe I can talk myself (and my >>> programming partner) in to it. Though, now that I look, I don't see >>> the iLooch source code posted anywhere. >>> >>> Can you confirm that RT Cmix is an option only if I make the source >>> code to my app publicly available? >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> -Morgan >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Brad Garton <gar...@columbia.edu> wrote: >>>> No, it's usable. I have an app already in the App store: >>>> >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/ilooch/ >>>> >>>> We have a new release up in the next few days. >>>> >>>> brad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:25 PM, douglas repetto wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brad Garton has RTcmix running on the iPhone: >>>>> >>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/iRTcmix/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dunno what the license is though... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/7/11 8:09 PM, Morgan Packard wrote: >>>>>> (First post to this list. Sent this a few days ago and it doesn't seem >>>>>> to have gone through, so trying again.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi There, >>>>>> I've been writing low-level code for my iOS app, Thicket, pretty much >>>>>> myself, with the exception of a sine oscillator and an envelope >>>>>> borrowed from STK. I'd like to be able to work on this platform in a >>>>>> much faster way than I have been, simply plugging unit generators in >>>>>> to one another, not having to stop and think about how to, for >>>>>> example, go from a mono oscillator signal to a stereo reverb signal. >>>>>> I'd like to be able to work more like I work in SuperCollider, writing >>>>>> higher-level code to create a "signal path", trusting that the >>>>>> connections will be efficiently managed for me. In other words, I'd >>>>>> like to spend a little less time being a fairly incompetent engineer, >>>>>> and more time being a halfway-decent artist. I'm finding that my list >>>>>> of options is surprisingly small >>>>>> SuperCollider -- GPL licence, would require that I open-source my app >>>>>> ChucK -- GPL license, would require that I open-source my app >>>>>> CSound -- the FAQ indicates that I need to make arrangements with MIT >>>>>> to put it to commercial use. Worth looking in to, perhaps. >>>>>> JSyn -- java, not gonna work on iOS >>>>>> MusicKit -- looks very interesting, but doesn't seem to be a very >>>>>> active project, and I don't think anyone has gotten it running on iOS >>>>>> yet >>>>>> Pure Data -- seems like my best option. more permissive license, but >>>>>> I'm wary of the visual programming paradigm, and have at least one >>>>>> technical detail which is making me a bit uncomfortable >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I missing something? Is there anything -- free, or not, which I >>>>>> should look at for iOS development besides Pure Data? Are there not >>>>>> hundreds of other people with the same needs that I have? Are my >>>>>> options really limited to: Pure Data or rolling my own, or >>>>>> open-sourcing my app? >>>>>> I sincerely appreciate any info or thoughts any of you are able to >>>>>> share with me. >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> -Morgan >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ================================ >>>>>> Web: >>>>>> http://www.morganpackard.com >>>>>> Music/Art: >>>>>> Latest album: Moment Again Elsewhere >>>>>> iOS app Thicket available on iTunes store. >>>>>> ================================ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ............................................... http://artbots.org >>>>> .....douglas.....irving........................ http://dorkbot.org >>>>> .......................... http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp >>>>> .......... repetto............. http://music.columbia.edu/organism >>>>> ............................... http://music.columbia.edu/~douglas >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: >>>>> subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, >>>>> dsp links >>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp >>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: >>>> subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, >>>> dsp links >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================ >>> Web: >>> http://www.morganpackard.com >>> Music/Art: >>> Latest album: Moment Again Elsewhere >>> iOS app Thicket available on iTunes store. >>> ================================ >>> -- >>> dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: >>> subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, >>> dsp links >>> http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp >>> >> >> -- >> dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: >> subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp >> links >> http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp >> > > > > -- > ================================ > Web: > http://www.morganpackard.com > Music/Art: > Latest album: Moment Again Elsewhere > iOS app Thicket available on iTunes store. > ================================ > -- > dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: > subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp > links > http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp > -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp
