The AES report is highly controversial. Plenty of sources dispute the findings.
--- Tom On 2/5/2015 6:39 PM, Ross Bencina wrote: Hi Ethan, On 6/02/2015 1:17 PM, Ethan Duni wrote: >> There is just no way A/B testing on a sample of listeners, >> >at loud, but still realistic listening levels, would show that >> >dithering to 16bit makes a difference. > > Well, can you refer us to an A/B test that confirms your assertions? > Personally I take a dim view of people telling me that a test would surely > confirm their assertions, but without actually doing any test. Here's a double-blind A/B/X test that indicated no one could hear the difference between 16 and 24 bit. 24-bit is better than 16-bit with dithering so maybe you can extrapolate. AES Journal 2007 September, Volume 55 Number 9: "Audibility of a CD-Standard A/D/A Loop Inserted into High-Resolution Audio Playback" E. Brad Meyer and David R. Moran I found this link with google: http://drewdaniels.com/audible.pdf "The test results show that the CD-quality A/D/A loop was undetectable at normal-to-loud listening levels, by any of the subjects, on any of the playback systems. The noise of the CD-quality loop was audible only at very elevated levels." Cheers, Ross. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp NOTICE: This electronic mail message and its contents, including any attachments hereto (collectively, "this e-mail"), is hereby designated as "confidential and proprietary." This e-mail may be viewed and used only by the person to whom it has been sent and his/her employer solely for the express purpose for which it has been disclosed and only in accordance with any confidentiality or non-disclosure (or similar) agreement between TEAC Corporation or its affiliates and said employer, and may not be disclosed to any other person or entity. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp