The self dither argument is not as obvious as it may appear.  To be effective 
at dithering, the noise has to be at the right level of course but also should 
be white and temporally constant.  The noise floors present in music data 
normally come from the self noise of the analog components used in recording 
and are composites of a number of noise PDFs.  For example, a graph in a second 
paper by the same group (cited below if wanted) shows spectra of the measured 
noise floors from around a dozen recordings.  The noise spectra are composites 
with the lower frequencies clearly 1/f noise and the upper frequencies summing 
closer to flat.  Whether composite noise of this sort is both temporally 
continuous and white enough to be relied on for dither needs to be shown; it's 
been shown under at least some circumstances (not in these papers) that a 
truncation distortion spectrum can be produced and measured when signals are 
truncated to 24b.  

I'm not saying the self dither argument is necessarily wrong; but it needs 
verification as to when and where it is reliably valid.   If 24b truncation 
turns out to be demonstrably audible in an AB/X, then the self dither idea 
clearly needs to be rethought.

Vicki Melchior

(graph mentioned is fig 8 in this paper:   
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17501)

On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote:

> First, if there is enough noise in the signal before truncation, then it’s 
> dithered by default—no correlation.

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