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Subject: Re: [music-dsp] how to derive spectrum of random sample-and-hold noise?

From: "Ethan Duni" <ethan.d...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, November 10, 2015 8:58 pm

To: "A discussion list for music-related DSP" <music-dsp@music.columbia.edu>

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>>(Semi-)stationarity, I'd say. Ergodicity is a weaker condition, true,

>>but it doesn't then really capture how your usual L^2 correlative

>>measures truly work.

>

> I think we need both conditions, no?
all ergodic processes are stationary. �(not necessarily the other way around.)
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the reason (besides forgetting stuff i learned 4 decades ago) i left out 
"stationary" was that i was sorta conflating the two. �i just
wanted to be able to turn the time-averages in the whatever norm (and L^2 is as 
good as any) with probabilistic averages, which is the root meaning of the 
property "ergodic". �but probably "stationary" is a better (stronger) 
assumption to make.
�

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>>Something like that, yes, except that you have to factor in aliasing.

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> What aliasing? Isn't this process generated directly in the discrete time

> domain?
i'm thinking the same thing. �it's a discrete-time Markov process. �just model 
it and analyze it as such. assuming stationarity, we should be able to derive 
an autocorrelation function (and i think you guys did) and from that (and the 
DTFT) you have the (periodic) power
spectrum.
worry about frequency aliasing when you decide to output this to a DAC.



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