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Cristov Russell
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:03 AM
To: 'MusicBrainz style discussion'
Subject: RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

> Secondly, in reference to your comment about what people are 
> describing as collaborations are groups, I feel that is well 
> covered in the past issue on the mailing list and will not 
> re-cover that. This is why I feel you are going solely off 
> the wiki article that I drew up specifically to have multiple 
> people go over it with their findings on test. It is good in 
> the effect that obviously the wiki isn't clear enough, but, 
> it is not acceptable in my opinion that you skipped over all 
> of the previous conversations due to simply reading the wiki. 
> I appreciate the information, I just don't appreciate the 
> lack of delving more indepth to find out what went behind the 
> proposal in the first place.
> 
> Nyght aka Beth

I skimmed some of the emails but in actuality I don't think it would make
much difference since I disagree with the general concept altogether. IMO
the approach is wrong. Can you point out what in my comments would have been
argued by the thread?

Cristov (wolfsong)


If you had spent a week or more talking about something, and had me come in
and with just skimming over something said "I don't think so" and then
"explain it to me" because my point differs would you be so willing to try
and make a concise booklet of not only your thoughts, but several other
moderators to clarify the point? To me that is redundant and as well going
opposite of what Don laid out as a way to present something.

Which was to my understanding

Present the idea
Listen to, and work through comments
Once presented, and seeming mainly acceptable go through testing (the
process we are in right now)
After that, draw up the wiki and RFV (request for veto)

Upon that time, the person vetoing (which is you, before the veto phase, but
that's okay.) Should do enough research to give a valid argument as to why a
VETO should be given. In my opinion, not only are you asking me to present
the comments in a short concise form (that are available on the mailing
list), but now argue once more why it should be kept instead of you doing
the research and drawing up why it shouldn't come into being.

This isn't a first, it's beginning to seem more the norm. People that
haven't fully read into something, then stating whoa, stop, halt, and I
don't like this, but with a grasp of only half of the discussion. (most of
which this time has been on the mailing list and easily able to be dug
through.) No, I can't go over everything, because I would one more have to
go through the mailing list, read everyone's comments and present them to
give them their own light since that is only appropriate. I have a trip to
prepare for, and while I am willing to give you information I have readily
at hand, I am not willing to research something that has already been pretty
thoroughly commented on in mailing list. Sorry, perhaps if I didn't have a
trip I was preparing for I would be more willing.

Nyght aka Beth.

Maybe Joan, mo, Shepard or a handful of others can bring you what you've
requested.


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