On 15/02/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, StrongGuidelines, ConsistentOriginalData or ArtistIntent remain > > quite vague. > > > > i'm happy with the pricinple, but it's not a 'guideline' as such. i'm > > happy with the current link on > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/OfficialStyleGuideline > > > I'm not sure I follow what you mean (or which link)... > > ArtistIntent is, I think, intentionally vague.
right, so indeed one can take it cover mean anything and nothing. that's what i mean - i can rarely use that in an edit note, i have to justify WHY i think artistintent beats the guidelines in a given situation. that's fine by me - that's why it's not a 'guideline' but rather an idea. > The two StrongGuidelines (AbbreviationStyle and SeriesNumberStyle) > are, as far as I can see, very specific. yes, but it was supposed to extend to all guidelines but that hasn't been the case. eg, DiscNumberStyle would probably be a 'strong guideline', all things being equal. for better or worse, people have given up with this one. again this is more of an idea rather than a guideline - you have to justify it if you use it in an edit note discussion. > ConsistentOriginalData is likewise non-vague - the one question there, > at least following StylePrinciple, would be answered by ArtistIntent, > in that ArtistIntent would supercede ConsistantOriginalData, should > ArtistIntent be determined to be present. see above... > OfficialStyleGuideline is great, but currently, it's StylePrinciple > which actually lays out the order of precedence between ArtistIntent, > ConsistentOriginalData, StrongGuideline, and ConsistentOriginalData, > in that, say, ArtistIntent is superior to any OfficialStyleGuideline. > > Hence why I say, it's an order of precedence and principles we all > take for granted anyhow; I'm just looking to (finally) take off the > "This is yet a ProposedStyleGuideline, although IMO it reflects a long > existent consensus" that's been on that page at least since it was > migrated from the old wiki on 2005-07-23, and mark this an official > guideline. Each of the 4 principles it describes already is an > official philosophy/guideline, it's just the document which puts them > into relationship between each other which is not. but it's *not* a styleguideline - it's a 'thing' to say when we defer to to the guidelines. putting it in the styleguidelines creates a recursive loop which as a programmer, makes my head hurt :) remove that phrase but don't add it to the styleguidelines category. maybe category philosphy? _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style