Yes, I was thinking of those little embedded Flash players; I'd doubt they're intended to be deep-linked... After all, theoretically, you can download from those, as well, but I'd suspect that most artists never intend that either, so I'd not add that Flash-embedded mp3's url as a download link. But yes, for a stream service which is as you describe - essentially the rss version of a stream, then I'd agree, because of the implicit permission grant.
Brian On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Pete Marsh <pete.ma...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Brian > > Yes, the original intent was a deep link to the stream, but it is within > the context of a service; you would end up a page on the Spotify/We7 or > whatever's player. The services that host those streams offer users the > opportunity to share and link to those streams, so I think we can assume > that the artists/labels are ok with that. Spotify and other services are > regularly linked to all over t'internet as far as i can see. > > Obviously with artist pages and other sites there will be a page available > to link to. I wouldn't argue that those should be deep links that would open > in your media player, if that's what you're assuming. > > Best > > Peter > > ------------------------------ > *From:* musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto: > musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Schweitzer > *Sent:* 25 August 2010 03:41 > > *To:* MusicBrainz Style Discussion > *Subject:* Re: [mb-style] RFV: - 'Add Music can be streamed for free at' > > I'm only confused by one thing in your prior reply. If I understand > correctly, your intent is that the AR be used to link to the stream, not the > page on which the stream can be found. Am I misunderstanding, or is this > correct? If it is correct, I'd disagree, with similar rationale - the > artist makes the stream available, and while I think it's fair to assume > that there's an inherent grant of permission to link to the page with the > stream, I don't think I could support the same rationale for a deep link to > the stream - unless the artist/label expressly grants that permission. They > may want to provide stream users with other info, etc. (I'd note that the > same is actually true of the other online music ARs; it's somewhat unclear > as to whether the free download should be the mp3, or the page with the > mp3's link, for example.) > > Brian > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Pete Marsh <pete.ma...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I've removed the Whitelist from the proposal... >> >> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:Add_Music_can_be_streamed_for_free_ >> at >> >> any other feedback welcomed...I've kept Nikki's link phrasing on the URL >> as it's consistent with existing ARs which makes sense to me... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org >> [mailto:musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of >> Andrew Conkling >> Sent: 20 August 2010 14:25 >> To: MusicBrainz Style Discussion >> Subject: Re: [mb-style] RFV: - 'Add Music can be streamed for free at' >> >> On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:57, Brian Schweitzer wrote: >> > Does this AR really need a whitelist? Many labels' and artists' pages >> that I run across these days are have streaming music. Isn't it a fair >> assumption to think that, if a label or artist is providing streamed >> music, it's safe to assume they'd want people to know about it - ie, to >> link back to them? Yet going through the whole permission whitelisting >> and RFC for each and every such URL would be sufficiently troublesome >> that I know I'd never do it. >> >> Totally agreed; I feel the same way about cover art (though I realize >> that's a bit of a different animal). Since we're not doing anything with >> the streaming music actually on our site (just linking to it), I don't >> see why a whitelist would be that necessary. >> >> Pete, I think linking to artist sites might also be useful; I'd say it's >> better to keep this AR broader. Regarding a whitelist, I'd think a >> hyperlink would be acceptable without a whitelist (since we're not doing >> anything but linking), except in particular cases? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MusicBrainz-style mailing list >> MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org >> http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal >> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MusicBrainz-style mailing list >> MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org >> http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style >> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal > views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance > on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style >
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