2013/3/15 symphonick <symphon...@gmail.com>

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> 2013/3/15 Nikki <aei...@gmail.com>
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>> It seems incomplete to me. Is it ever supposed to be used for pop music?
>> If not, it should explicitly exclude pop music. If it is, I think it
>> should clarify when the relationship is supposed to be used. Right now
>> it only seems to mention classical.
>>
>> I *really* don't want to see loads of new works being created for pop
>> music just because there's a different arranger credited and I'm
>> concerned adding new relationships like this will only encourage people
>> to do that, so I'd like it to be clear what it's intended for before
>> it's added.
>>
>
>
>>   Also "Do not confuse arrangements with cover versions." is not a very
>> good guideline. All it does for me is make me more confused: How do I
>> know if I'm confusing arrangements with cover versions? What do I do if
>> I think I am? Is a cover version ever an arrangement?
>>
>
> The intention is to link between works when one work is a (musical)
> arrangement of the other work.
>
> The conclusion from the previous version of this proposal, was that a
> guideline of what defines a work in MB doesn't really belong at an AR page.
> I wish there was such a guideline, but there isn't (outside classical).
>
> It mentions classical and (big band) jazz. I believe no one has been able
> to come up with a way to use this for pop music. But technically, yes,
> covers are often performances of a different arrangement of the original
> version.
>

I'll try to clarify:
As I understand this, covers are often performances of an arrangement of an
original recording/mix. But I wonder if the actual differences in wording
are genre-dependant. A classical arrangement are often based on the score
of the original work, but it could be based on a performance. Either way
you wouldn't call it a cover version. In jazz, I believe "arrangement" is
the word you'd use, but it's often based on a performance. Of course it's
an useless distinction; how would you know if the arranger used a recording
or a score or both?

There. I'm glad we got that all sorted out. :-) Questions?


>
> Inspired by other AR guidelines in MB ;-) "Don't confuse foo with bar" &
> then, on bar page: "Don't confuse bar with foo."
> I thought I should mention covers, since it's probably what you want for
> pop music.
>
>
>> Since I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean, I can't really propose
>> any better wording. :) However, a guideline for a relationship is
>> ideally a guide for *how* or *when* to use the relationship. Rewording
>> it so that it's an answer to "How or when do I use this relationship?"
>> is likely to work much better.
>>
>
> /symphonick




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/symphonick
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