On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:03 AM, symphonick <symphon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How are you going to connect & separate between translations & different > lyrics without a specific relationship? > ex. Melody X with lyrics A in language B / Melody X with lyrics A translated > to language C / Melody X with lyrics D in language B / Melody X with lyrics E > in language F / Melody Y (same title as Melody X) with lyrics A in language B > / Melody Y with lyrics A translated to language C We’re not. That’s what he’s getting at. The idea is now that we have lyrics languages attached to works we no longer have to differentiate between translations and other alternate versions. > > > 2014-03-01 10:35 GMT+01:00 Tom Crocker <tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>: > > On 28 Feb 2014 19:02, "SwissChris" <swissch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > - 1 > > > > I have always, like most editors here and like the guys at > > http://www.secondhandsongs.com , read "translated" as saying "(more or less > > faithfully) transferred into another language" > > Makes sense to me - you can't expect translations to be perfect as there > often isn't a one to one mapping between languages and anyway, lyrics are > likely to be tweaked to scan/rhyme > > >or even just "uses the same music with lyrics in a different language", > >since for most languages I wouldn't be able to tell how faithful a > >translation/adaptation is. > > Hmm, whether we individual editors are capable of knowing whether there's any > similarity between the two versions, I think that should be what we're > claiming if we use the term translation - it is what it means! > > >And since the UI will certainly not systematically show the work language in > >every context this information is obviously not bogus and definitely not > >useless. > > I think Jesus's point is not that the information itself is bogus or useless > but the specific relationship is because that information can be derived from > elsewhere (as long as they're related and we just mean same melody different > language). So regardless of what the UI currently shows or what our > relationships are currently capable of it could be automated, which would be > good database design > > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style > > > > -- > > /symphonick > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
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