* Simon "english rules" White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Maerz-13 09:04]:
> 13-Mar-02 at 09:35, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> > I started using "[yymmdd]" as a date indicator on my webpages
> > before Markus Kuhn wrote ISO-8601 (in 1995) - so sue me!  ;-)
> Well, that's no excuse for not having become year 2000 compliant.

I'm not excusing my decision.  If don't want my info
because of this compliancy bullshit, well, go away!

> The big problem with dates is the American vs. European
> format, so that 02/03 can be 2nd March (Europe) and 3rd
> February (US), which confuses the hell out of everyone.
> This is why I use the month name, which is in English
> but probably still better than being ambiguous.
> 99% of people I write to will understand
> the English month name abbreviations.

bwa-hahahahaha!  *snort*

There are more people who will understand the Chinese
calendar than all the people who understand English -
and yet they won't give us such silly remarks. sheesh.

> Post 1999 you are adding to this confusion since the 2
> digit year could also be interpreted as a month for the
> next 10 years, and as a day for the next 29... and yymmdd,
> yyddmm, mmddyy and ddmmyy are all configurations that are
> parsed by the brain before concluding properly.

blah.

> On attributions: One problem with quoting the email address is
> that some people with ridiculously long emails can cause wrap.

exactly - people with *ridiculously* long emails.

> You're not far off, Sven, with your 13 characters and the
> extra dot for subdomain, and that's just the right hand side
> of the @ not including the TLD.  If you had a middle name
> which you quoted in your real name you would cause wrap.
> You are thus contradicting yourself if you say it
> should stay on one line, considering the enormous
> length of some email addresses and real names.

this is so silly that I had to read it twice to believe it.

let's take a look at your attribution then:

13-Mar-02 at 09:35, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789

that's 66 characters - 14 to go!

delete the time and the English words ("at" and "wrote")
and the length of the attributions drops below 50 here:

13-Mar-02 Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789

That'll leave some 30 characters for longer name and address.  So there.

Here's another example for an attribution;

* Simon MiddleName White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789

Now, if your name wasn't so long (ehem) there'd
be even more space for an even longer address.

80 characters is plenty!  and, yes, there are silly people
with extra long addresses who will not fit in there.
but how many people are like that?  I hope less than 1%.

anyway, all people who don't have an address with only one dot
in there address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), well, they can get one!

Besides, I say that "date+time are optional", right?
This info can often be found in the MID and
thus in the In-Reply-To line, anyway.

Important is only name+address.
Alas, the default attribution with
mutt does not inlcude the address.
*sigh*

Sven

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