>  Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like 
Yes, agreed. This is exactly what I am doing. Hence I started this thread.  

> What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have 
> actually been here doing this for years.

What irony! With huge respect, I think part of the problem is the fact that 
many of HAVE been doing so for many years is specifically part of the 
problem(!) i.e. You are no longer new users. And as such it is hard for you 
to understand what it is like to be a new user - mainly because that was 
many years ago(!)

The case that I am presenting is that as can be seen by my footprints new 
user and expert users have very different requirements. So different that 
it would be of merit to physically separate the discussions. This is after 
all what larger communities already do.

> ...create more discord.
The case I am making is that if there was a place where new users could 
'run riot' with lots chat, albeit necessarily naive often poorly 
thought-through chat, about how MLO works... (but seeking some hints and 
tips from anyone who wished to help), and for the new users to be able to 
so without treading on anyone else's toes amongst the MLO experts and 
'old-timers'... that this would help AVOID discord rather than create it.

This would for example allow expert user to opt IN to multiple emails from 
the experts area (presumably the existing group) so that they can be 
alerted about and participate in more thoughtful discussions... And 
simultaneously to opt OUT of any noise and chatter from new users. 

Are there any new users here who think a group for new users is a BAD idea?



On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:26:56 PM UTC, Lisa S wrote:
>
> I'm going to put on my volunteer moderator hat, given to me the developer, 
> and officially ask that you  don't create any separate list about MLO right 
> now. Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like this before you 
> jump in and mix things up and frankly, create more discord. This is their 
> list, set up for peer support and discussion.  If you create another list I 
> believe it risks fracturing the community we have here.
>
> What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have actually 
> been here doing this for years.
>
> It's time to get back to talking about how to use the features we already 
> have, IMNSHO. 
> Hello
>
> It is clear that new users and long-time users have very different 
> requirements.
>
> I think it's important for the long-time users of MLO to have a place 
> where they can have in depth, carefully considered conversation, normally 
> having read the relevant parts of the manual about the extremely complex 
> system (or should I say 'platform'?  ;^)  ) that his MLO. And to be able to 
> do so without distracting noise & chatter from new users.
>
> As a new user I would like a place where I can have a very different, much 
> more informal sort of conversation. When I first moved to MLO I wanted to 
> be able to spray out at least 1 at least one question every half hour of 
> using the system. But I did not want to irritate the experts during the 
> process. I do NOT expect to have all my questions answered. I want 
> something more like a chat room or Twitter, where you tweet out to the 
> universe and you may or may not get a direct message back, depending on 
> whether or not anyone else is listening (i.e. following *and* reading). I 
> also want to be able to retract or edit my questions if I discover answer 
> to my question or have the misspelled something before anyone got to answer 
> my question.  
>
> Possible solutions:
>
> 1. Another Google Group.
> It's quite easy to start another Google Group called say 
> "MyLifeOrganised.new.users"
> On the down side editing posts appears to be impossible (??)
>
> 2. Google+
> Perhaps a more modern solution?
> (Although I have never used it seriously)
>
> 3. A Free Hosted Forum 
> e.g. 
> - https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features
> - http://www.lefora.com/
> - ??
>
>
> Any thoughts/other suggestions?
>
> If nobody stops me in the first instance I will probably just start new 
> Google Group as a experiment, but with the clear understanding that we 
> decide to delete the whole group if unsuccessful and/or anyone has a better 
> idea.
>
> J
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