A humble suggestion after reading these threads for a few months. The potential for chaos and discord exists in any community of sufficiently diverse people. User communities surrounding other productivity software abound very successfully on Yammer, making use of tagging/contexts, discussions, identity, user subscrib"ability" (I.e., "following" users, types of content, level of content, etc.) are extremely successful, very usable for eclectic users and provide much more robust interactivity such as file sharing, events, examples, demonstrations, live chat capabilities, to name a few.
Perhaps the different experience levels could be addressed with software rather than elitism and grandiosity. Thanks. On Dec 9, 2014 4:52 PM, "pottster" <kenwarren...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think a separate forum for new users is a good idea. Based on my > experience of other (too many) forums I think a few additional pinned > threads here could be useful though. Namely, list of resources for new > users, faq's, tips & tricks, and forum rules & guidelines. In terms of > interaction with new users, my view is that, far and away the most > effective tool, is the webinar. This is used very successfully by a number > of software companies who produce "full featured" products with a steep > learning curve. Recordings of these webinars are a further permanently > available resource. > > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:06:12 UTC, John Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> > Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like >> Yes, agreed. This is exactly what I am doing. Hence I started this >> thread. >> >> > What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have >> > actually been here doing this for years. >> >> What irony! With huge respect, I think part of the problem is the fact >> that many of HAVE been doing so for many years is specifically part of the >> problem(!) i.e. You are no longer new users. And as such it is hard for you >> to understand what it is like to be a new user - mainly because that was >> many years ago(!) >> >> The case that I am presenting is that as can be seen by my footprints new >> user and expert users have very different requirements. So different that >> it would be of merit to physically separate the discussions. This is after >> all what larger communities already do. >> >> > ...create more discord. >> The case I am making is that if there was a place where new users could >> 'run riot' with lots chat, albeit necessarily naive often poorly >> thought-through chat, about how MLO works... (but seeking some hints and >> tips from anyone who wished to help), and for the new users to be able to >> so without treading on anyone else's toes amongst the MLO experts and >> 'old-timers'... that this would help AVOID discord rather than create it. >> >> This would for example allow expert user to opt IN to multiple emails >> from the experts area (presumably the existing group) so that they can be >> alerted about and participate in more thoughtful discussions... And >> simultaneously to opt OUT of any noise and chatter from new users. >> >> Are there any new users here who think a group for new users is a BAD >> idea? >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:26:56 PM UTC, Lisa S wrote: >>> >>> I'm going to put on my volunteer moderator hat, given to me the >>> developer, and officially ask that you don't create any separate list >>> about MLO right now. Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like >>> this before you jump in and mix things up and frankly, create more discord. >>> This is their list, set up for peer support and discussion. If you create >>> another list I believe it risks fracturing the community we have here. >>> >>> What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have >>> actually been here doing this for years. >>> >>> It's time to get back to talking about how to use the features we >>> already have, IMNSHO. >>> Hello >>> >>> It is clear that new users and long-time users have very different >>> requirements. >>> >>> I think it's important for the long-time users of MLO to have a place >>> where they can have in depth, carefully considered conversation, normally >>> having read the relevant parts of the manual about the extremely complex >>> system (or should I say 'platform'? ;^) ) that his MLO. And to be able to >>> do so without distracting noise & chatter from new users. >>> >>> As a new user I would like a place where I can have a very different, >>> much more informal sort of conversation. When I first moved to MLO I wanted >>> to be able to spray out at least 1 at least one question every half hour of >>> using the system. But I did not want to irritate the experts during the >>> process. I do NOT expect to have all my questions answered. I want >>> something more like a chat room or Twitter, where you tweet out to the >>> universe and you may or may not get a direct message back, depending on >>> whether or not anyone else is listening (i.e. following *and* reading). I >>> also want to be able to retract or edit my questions if I discover answer >>> to my question or have the misspelled something before anyone got to answer >>> my question. >>> >>> Possible solutions: >>> >>> 1. Another Google Group. >>> It's quite easy to start another Google Group called say >>> "MyLifeOrganised.new.users" >>> On the down side editing posts appears to be impossible (??) >>> >>> 2. Google+ >>> Perhaps a more modern solution? >>> (Although I have never used it seriously) >>> >>> 3. A Free Hosted Forum >>> e.g. >>> - https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features >>> - http://www.lefora.com/ >>> - ?? >>> >>> >>> Any thoughts/other suggestions? >>> >>> If nobody stops me in the first instance I will probably just start new >>> Google Group as a experiment, but with the clear understanding that we >>> decide to delete the whole group if unsuccessful and/or anyone has a better >>> idea. >>> >>> J >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to mylifeorganiz...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to mylifeo...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>> msgid/mylifeorganized/7b62a657-9448-468b-b1d0- >>> fad0765faf6c%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/7b62a657-9448-468b-b1d0-fad0765faf6c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1be700e8-4a0d-40d7-8bc4-0bb68cb10712%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/1be700e8-4a0d-40d7-8bc4-0bb68cb10712%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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