Hi, John. First, let me say that I am surprised to find you clicking
triangles, I thought that you were keyboard-only. You must have found a
better mount? :-)
I know that there are outliner is which "join rows" is a small deal -
MLO's not one. The only way I know to do what you are asking would be
with cut & paste which is cumbersome and I'm sure wholely unacceptable.
But let's go over why Next Actions isn't working for you. I made a new
profile and put in a half dozen or so tasks at the root and then added a
folder named HOUSE ORGANISED with the four child tasks you specified. I
created two tabs: the first one showed the All Tasks view, the second
showed Active Actions. The second tab was set to synch selection with
the first tab, and I had the view specifications showing in the left
hand panel. I changed the first filter from ShowActions:Active to
ShowActions:NextAction and saved the updated view as Next Actions. I
created a third tab and loaded the Active Actions view. In Options:to-do
list format I turned on the top Encode checkbox, turned off encode for
projects, turned on prefix encoding for task path with a path depth of
one, name limit of 20 characters, no start or separator string and enc
string of " - " (blank/dash/blank).
The Next Actions view shows seven tasks, root tasks one through six, and
one that showed
HOUSE ORGANISED - Clear Bedroom
I marked the House task completed and it changed to
HOUSE ORGANISED - Clear TV Room
the six root tasks were undisturbed
In order to view the other tasks involved in house organization, I have
several choices
1. click on the home tab. To go back, click on the nextactions tab. one
click each way. drawback: if you have a lot of concurrent projects like
this they will all be expended at once. But the one you are working on
will be the selected task so it should not be challenging to find.
2. Doubleclick on the current task. Everything past the initial click is
identical to option 1
3. Click on the ActiveActions tab. After the initial click it's the same
as #1. Difference is that #1 gave a hierarchical view which allows you
to see the parents and the completed tasks, also, the view in #1 may
have been sorted which may or may not help.
4. Stay in the current tab. Change the first filter to
ShowActions:Active. When you are done, change it back. Advantage, only
uses a single workspace, if that matters to you. Drawback: two clicks to
change, And a risk that you are going to leave this expanded without
resetting it and get a surprise the next time you use the view and it
doesn't do what it is supposed to.
5. Stay in the current tab but keep the list of available views in the
left sidebar instead of the view definition. Click on "active actions"
to expand, click on "next actions" to revert. Same as #4 but single
click and without the risk of leaving the view incorrectly defined.
Reviewing your concerns:
- you want to expand in a single click. Of the five ways of expanding
shown above, four are single click.
- you find changing tabs clunky. I don't understand why changing tabs is
challenging but two of the five methods work in a single tab.
- you experience a slight pain making the parent a project. There are no
projects here but it would work about the same if you used a project.
- other tasks vanish. No tasks outside of the clean house structure
vanished during this test. The cost of this is that all of your
non-project tasks have to be at root, something that you previously said
was your intention.
- the parent takes up display space. The parent is not displayed in this
test unless all of the subtasks are complete.
To your conclusion, it is incredibly simple to prepend a project name
onto its subtasks using the option described above. The challenge is to
do this only for the next action while continuing to display the other
tasks without the prepend. For that I think you have to use cut and paste
-Dwight
On 12/8/2016 1:32 PM, John . Smith wrote:
Hello
What is the quickest way to join two rows together?
i.e. I keep wanting to the first child task onto the end of a part
task's name
e.g. I would want:
Line 1: HOUSE ORGANISED
Line 2: - Clear bedroom
to now become:
Line 1: HOUSE ORGANISED - Clear bedroom
i.e. now all on the one line!
*BACKGROUND*
I am in the habit of writing a task in the form:
[PROJECT NAME] ==> [next action]
e.g. Suppose I had a project like this:
HOUSE ORGANISED [as a Project]
- Clear bedroom [as a task with the Project]
- Clear TV room [as a task with the Project]
- Clean Kitchen surfaces [as a task with the Project]
- Clear Kitchen cupboards [as a task with the Project]
Ideally I like to see:
"HOUSE ORGANISED ==> Clear bedroom"
And then at a single click (on the small triangle before the project's
name) I could see all the tasks below it by "un-collapsing" the child
tasks.
HOUSE ORGANISED ==> Clear bedroom
Clear TV room
Clean Kitchen surfaces
Clear Kitchen cupboards
Yes, I know that I want to see /*just*/ the first task within the
project, obviously I could use the MLO functionality of "Show Next
Actions", however there are problems:
1. I want very quickly (i.e. at a single click) see what all the other
tasks within the project are. And in order to to this in MLO using/not
using Show Next Actions, I would need to *change workarea* (i.e. tab).
And this is rather clunky.
2. The project name "HOUSE ORGANISED" *must *be made into a MLO Project
(e.g. using Alt+J) . This is only a slight pain but...
3. Any other parent tasks that have not been made into MLO Projects
simply disappear from the "Show Next Actions" view! Which can be
extremely confusing.
4. In any case rather than all being on the one line, it would then take
up two lines which wastes precious vertical space: i.e.
Line 1: HOUSE ORGANISED
Line 2: - Clear bedroom
instead of just:
Line 1: HOUSE ORGANISED - Clear bedroom
My conclusion is that in many cases I would prefer to not bother with
allocating formal MLO Project, and not bother with having to change
tabs, I would like to have sub-tasks within a task and simply manually
append the next task on the list onto the project's name.
But how can I do this in MLO?
Cheers
J
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