This is the best response todate. !
John Daisley wrote:
I have read through your message again because I really could not
believe you were having so many issues then it struck me...
Thank you for listening... :-)
You installed MySQL 6.0.8, an Alpha release on to what seems like a
production box
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am an overzealous amateur with Unix in
general. I think the thinking behind it all is fabulous; it's just that,
I find, there is a kind-of smugness in the community about the systems
and software: people assume that we "amateur-idiots" are supposed to
know more than we do. I really do not like the idea of having to read
through all the documentation of any program until I need to get into
the details - most software, like Cups and Salmba are set up once and
thereafter one need not even think about it; generally it works without
problem.
No, I have the setup strictly locally for my own pleasure and
enlightenment and to help me with the creation and, sometimes,
development of a website by more qualified people working for me... now,
I'm just trying to help out my daughter to update her egyptology site
(www.ptahhotep.com) with a database.
and now you are having trouble getting other versions to work? Well
this isn't going to be very helpful but I guess you are learning the
hard way why you never install alpha software onto anything other than
a box which you rely on only to collect dust.
You're right... :-) - but it is helpful. I didn't realize that this was
an alpha until I deinstalled... ok, ok, that's my fault...
Seems to me the box you are working on is pretty messed up with
Apache, Php and MySQL all having problems. Restore a backup from
before it got messed up so you know you have a working base then try
again one piece of software at a time.
Other than the backup, which was not necessary, as this is a fresh
install of FreeBSD7.0, I did exactly that: I deinstalled, deleted stray
files and anything I could find related to MySQL, PHP5, phpMyAdmin, and
even Webmin. I then updated the Ports files and started to reinstall
everything. Well, I thought that would fix things... ehhh, no; not only
did it not work, there was another wrench that was dropped by php5.2.8 -
it is broken and phymyadmin cannot be installed and setup. Soooooo, as
we say in French: "rebelotte!" - or in English "back to square 1". So,
now I am just rying to set up MySQL - first try, to start the server was
a system freeze because I went for a directive from the Documentation.
To tell you the truth, I have never done backups on the FreeBSD
installations - the reasoning is quite simple... if it fails, I have
backed up the work files and anything of importance on other machines
and reinstallaing the OS and programs is not a big deal - at least, it
never has been; until now. I have had a couple of crashes but it has
exclusively been due to HDDs failing. Even on the last failure I was
able to salvage all important files without any great problems.
Other than that, as you are struggling with MySQL, PHP and Apache but
are happy with commercial software offerings then go with what you are
happy with. Get a copy of SQL Server and IIS. Everyone has there own
preference and you have to go with what you are most comfortable and
productive with. For me its Oracle10g/MySQL5 on Fedora, for you I'm
sure its something totally different.
What you don't want to do is try something you are not comfortable
with, mess it up and then go onto a user group blaming the software
particularly when its such an established piece of software as MySQL
which can proudly boast millions of working installs spread across
probably every conceivable platform.
I couldn't agree more. For example, I have more problems with MS Office
than you can imagine... OpenOfficeOrg is fabulous ... Only problem is
the compatibility with MS files is the macros, but I don't often need them.
Thats my rant for the day, now as its gone 1am Im off to bed.
Sweet dreams, and have a nice holiday.
Phil Jourdan
John
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On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 15:47 -0500, PJ wrote:
Do what I can, there seems to be no way to install mysql 5.1.30 on
FreeBSD 7.0
I even removed all files in reference to mysql5.0, 5.1, 6.0.8 from the
Ports collection, cvsup'd the Ports, deinstalled php5, php5-mysql,
phpMyAdmin, Webmin and followed the documentation as closely as possible
(a number of contradictions in file names and locations) to install
MySQL 5.1.30, run the install tables script, change the root password
both with and without the server name (it is never clear in the
documentation as to just when to start or stop the server) - the mysql
database is not created, access is denied to root (using password=NO) -
now, why is one supposed to set up the password and then the password is
not accepted - what is this nonsense; su mysql does not work.... how is
it possible that I was originally able to set up mysql6.0.8 and get it
running along with phpMyAdmin and Webmin... now I have updated even php5
to 5.2.8 and now phpMyAdmin cannot be installed because of a break in
php5.2.8 (the php5-sld - or something like that)
This is the most absurd mess that I have seen - it seems that the
programmers have all gone loony and have forgotten that the essence of
productivity and success is the old KISS principle - Keep It Simple Stupid.
I think there must be a lot of people sleeping out there in computer
never-never-land.
No wonder Bill Gates is a genius among the so-called computer nerds out
there. I detest Windows and all their bloated garbage - but you have to
admit that their aim is to make it simple for us Idiots out here. My
productivity has dropped to minus a few hundred percent since I started
to set up mysql.
Is there somebody out there who could help me figure out this mess.
What error files, if any should I be looking for...
Ohhhh, yes - to add to all the shit, I now cannot access php (index)
files on apache22 since upgrading to apache22 2.2.11 and php5.2.8 - now
I have to try to figure what has changed in both those programs... man,
this is no way to work with programs... look at Adobe and most of the
commercial stuff - there are at times some running issues, but mostly
they just keep adding features to a solid base... why are all these open
source programs such a hassle... I suppose I should set up some older
versions and just never update... seems that's the way to go.
Sorry to be ranting, but this is just unbelievable... I have, in the
past had some problems in installing such programs as cups and samba,
but eventually I was able to fix things and now those programs are no
longer a problem... but now....even pgsql was a breeze to install and
update... the only reason I'm trying to install mysql is because my ISP
Web host is using that... maybe not if I can help it....
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