Doing the same query on a table that fits into memory is a completely different 
thing than doing the query on a table where half the needed data resides on 
disk. Maybe your queries are not using an index? On a table with a few 
100-thousand records this is probably a non issue for the server, when the 
table has millions, well then it could be a problem. Maybe your indexes for 
this table don't fit into memory? Who knows? That is why you need to look at 
the problem queries. 

I can tweak server settings all day long, but if my query is doing a join on a 
table with 40 million records with no index, it'll never work. 

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks for the response - but do not believe queries are the issue
> because - Like I said - i have other websites doing the same exact
> queries as I am doing on the site with the 9gig table.
> -- my issue is optimizing mysql to handle lots of queries on a 9gig
> db. --- i think that is the focus.
> All other websites (10 websites) are being handled fine in terms of
> performance - with same queries -- just that table is about 100meg.
> I have run optimize on it and recover and prune,etc....no luck.
> thanks
> mjh
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Johnny Withers <joh...@pixelated.net> wrote:
>> I think in order to solve your problem you will need to post the queries 
>> running against this table along with the explain output of each problem 
>> query. Optimizing server settings is a good start, however, individual query 
>> performance sounds like your problem now.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just as an fyi - I have other databases and their corresponding apache
>>> websites on the same server - performing okay.
>>> It seems that apache/mysql server is just having a hard time dealing
>>> with the access to those pages that deal with the 9gig table on that
>>> particular site.  -- Most of the access is done by webcrawlers to the
>>> site - so there is a lot of activity occuring on the 9gig tables.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> mjh
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> guys - i am having such a hard time with this..it is killing me!!!
>>>> Sorry - had to vent.
>>>> my machine is running an tyan S2912G2NR  -- with 2 opterons and 12gig
>>>> of memory. I have 2 software raided drives 1gig each.
>>>> I run a couple of databases --- my largest table is about 9gig in
>>>> size. --it is being accessed a lot.
>>>> My my.cnf is as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> #
>>>> # The MySQL database server configuration file.
>>>> #
>>>> # You can copy this to one of:
>>>> # - "/etc/mysql/my.cnf" to set global options,
>>>> # - "~/.my.cnf" to set user-specific options.
>>>> #
>>>> # One can use all long options that the program supports.
>>>> # Run program with --help to get a list of available options and with
>>>> # --print-defaults to see which it would actually understand and use.
>>>> #
>>>> # For explanations see
>>>> # http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/server-system-variables.html
>>>> 
>>>> # This will be passed to all mysql clients
>>>> # It has been reported that passwords should be enclosed with ticks/quotes
>>>> # escpecially if they contain "#" chars...
>>>> # Remember to edit /etc/mysql/debian.cnf when changing the socket location.
>>>> [client]
>>>> port            = 3306
>>>> socket          = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
>>>> 
>>>> # Here is entries for some specific programs
>>>> # The following values assume you have at least 32M ram
>>>> 
>>>> # This was formally known as [safe_mysqld]. Both versions are currently 
>>>> parsed.
>>>> [mysqld_safe]
>>>> socket          = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
>>>> nice            = 0
>>>> 
>>>> [mysqld]
>>>> #
>>>> # * Basic Settings
>>>> #
>>>> user            = mysql
>>>> pid-file        = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
>>>> socket          = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
>>>> port            = 3306
>>>> basedir         = /usr
>>>> datadir         = /var/lib/mysql
>>>> tmpdir          = /tmp
>>>> language        = /usr/share/mysql/english
>>>> skip-external-locking
>>>> #
>>>> # Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on
>>>> # localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure.
>>>> bind-address            = 127.0.0.1
>>>> #
>>>> # * Fine Tuning
>>>> #
>>>> key_buffer              = 2G
>>>> key_buffer_size         = 2G
>>>> max_allowed_packet      = 16M
>>>> thread_stack            = 192K
>>>> thread_cache_size       = 8
>>>> join_buffer_size                = 128
>>>> # This replaces the startup script and checks MyISAM tables if needed
>>>> # the first time they are touched
>>>> myisam-recover         = BACKUP
>>>> max_connections        = 100
>>>> table_cache            = 1024
>>>> max_heap_table_size             = 32M
>>>> tmp_table_size                  = 32M
>>>> thread_concurrency     = 10
>>>> #
>>>> # * Query Cache Configuration
>>>> #
>>>> query_cache_limit       = 2M
>>>> query_cache_size        = 16M
>>>> #
>>>> # * Logging and Replication
>>>> #
>>>> # Both location gets rotated by the cronjob.
>>>> # Be aware that this log type is a performance killer.
>>>> # As of 5.1 you can enable the log at runtime!
>>>> general_log_file        = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
>>>> general_log             = 2
>>>> #
>>>> # Error logging goes to syslog due to 
>>>> /etc/mysql/conf.d/mysqld_safe_syslog.cnf.
>>>> #
>>>> # Here you can see queries with especially long duration
>>>> #log_slow_queries       = /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log
>>>> #long_query_time = 2
>>>> #log-queries-not-using-indexes
>>>> #
>>>> # The following can be used as easy to replay backup logs or for 
>>>> replication.
>>>> # note: if you are setting up a replication slave, see README.Debian about
>>>> #       other settings you may need to change.
>>>> #server-id              = 1
>>>> #log_bin                        = /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.log
>>>> expire_logs_days        = 10
>>>> max_binlog_size         = 100M
>>>> #binlog_do_db           = include_database_name
>>>> #binlog_ignore_db       = include_database_name
>>>> #
>>>> # * InnoDB
>>>> #
>>>> # InnoDB is enabled by default with a 10MB datafile in /var/lib/mysql/.
>>>> # Read the manual for more InnoDB related options. There are many!
>>>> #
>>>> # * Security Features
>>>> #
>>>> # Read the manual, too, if you want chroot!
>>>> # chroot = /var/lib/mysql/
>>>> #
>>>> # For generating SSL certificates I recommend the OpenSSL GUI "tinyca".
>>>> #
>>>> # ssl-ca=/etc/mysql/cacert.pem
>>>> # ssl-cert=/etc/mysql/server-cert.pem
>>>> # ssl-key=/etc/mysql/server-key.pem
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [mysqldump]
>>>> quick
>>>> quote-names
>>>> max_allowed_packet      = 64M
>>>> 
>>>> [mysql]
>>>> #no-auto-rehash # faster start of mysql but no tab completition
>>>> 
>>>> [isamchk]
>>>> key_buffer              = 16M
>>>> 
>>>> #
>>>> # * IMPORTANT: Additional settings that can override those from this file!
>>>> #   The files must end with '.cnf', otherwise they'll be ignored.
>>>> #
>>>> !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
>>>> 
>>>> any thoughts or help would be appricated.
>>>> thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Eric Bergen <eric.ber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Can you run show processlist in another connection while the select
>>>>> count(*) query is running and say what the state column is?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> this is not a real query on the site - it is just a way i am measuring
>>>>>> performance on mysql - I do not know if it is such a great way to test.
>>>>>> Looking for a better way to get a performance read on my site...do you 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> any ?? besides just viewing pages on it.
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> mjh
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Andrés Tello <mr.crip...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> have you tried
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> select count(yourindex) instead of select count(*) ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input -
>>>>>>>> 1. I will wait 48 hours and see what happens.
>>>>>>>> 2. can you tell me what are some performance tests I can do to help me
>>>>>>>> better tune my server ?
>>>>>>>> 3. I am concerned about this table : | w6h8a_sh404sef_urls
>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>> MyISAM |      10 | Dynamic    | 8908402 |            174 |  1551178184 
>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>  281474976710655 |   2410850304 |         0 |        8908777 | 
>>>>>>>> 2011-09-22
>>>>>>>> 11:16:03 | 2011-10-02 21:17:20 | 2011-10-02 10:12:04 | utf8_general_ci 
>>>>>>>>   |
>>>>>>>>  NULL |                |                                   |
>>>>>>>> what can I do to make it run faster - i did not write the code...but 
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> optimize server to handle this table when it gets larger.  It is used 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> url re-writes - so it has a lot of urls.
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> mjh
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Bruce Ferrell <bferr...@baywinds.org
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The meaning is:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> increase max_connections
>>>>>>>>> reduce wait_timeout
>>>>>>>>> -- 28800 is wait 8 hours before closing out dead connections
>>>>>>>>> same for interactive_timeout
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> increase key_buffer_size (> 7.8G) increase join_buffer_size
>>>>>>>>> -- This keeps mysql from having to run to disk constantly for keys
>>>>>>>>> -- Key buffer size / total MyISAM indexes: 256.0M/7.8G
>>>>>>>>> -- You have a key buffer of 256M and 7.8G of keys
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> join_buffer_size (> 128.0K, or always use indexes with joins)
>>>>>>>>> Joins performed without indexes: 23576 of 744k queries.
>>>>>>>>> -- You probably want to look at the slow query log.  Generalize the
>>>>>>>> queries
>>>>>>>>> and the do an explain on the query.  I have seen instances where a 
>>>>>>>>> query
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> thought was using an index wasn't and I had to re-write... with help
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> this list :-)  Thanks gang!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> increase tmp_table_size (> 16M)
>>>>>>>>> increase max_heap_table_size (> 16M)
>>>>>>>>> -- When making adjustments, make tmp_table_size/max_heap_table_size
>>>>>>>> equal
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> increase table_cache ( > 1k )
>>>>>>>>> -- Table cache hit rate: 7% (1K open / 14K opened)
>>>>>>>>> -- Increase table_cache gradually to avoid file descriptor limits
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All of the aside, you need to let this run for at least 24 hours. I
>>>>>>>>> prefer 48 hours.  The first line says mysql has only been running 9
>>>>>>>>> hours.   You can reset the timeouts interactivly by entering at the
>>>>>>>>> mysql prompt:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> set global wait_timeout=<some value>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can do the same for the interactive_timeout.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Setting these values too low will cause long running queries to abort
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 10/02/2011 07:02 PM, Joey L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Variables to adjust:
>>>>>>>>>>>     max_connections (> 100)
>>>>>>>>>>>     wait_timeout (< 28800)
>>>>>>>>>>>     interactive_timeout (< 28800)
>>>>>>>>>>>     key_buffer_size (> 7.8G)
>>>>>>>>>>>     join_buffer_size (> 128.0K, or always use indexes with joins)
>>>>>>>>>>>     tmp_table_size (> 16M)
>>>>>>>>>>>     max_heap_table_size (> 16M)
>>>>>>>>>>>     table_cache (> 1024)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Eric Bergen
>>>>> eric.ber...@gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.ebergen.net
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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