Precisely my point Singer. There's a workload here that isn't friendly with
table level locking and I would hazard a guess that there's some fights over
IO due to load vs resources. The count is going to be queued as you
describe.

A

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Singer X.J. Wang <w...@singerwang.com>wrote:

> Okay, lets hold on for a minute here and go back. We're side tracking too
> much.
>
> Lets state the facts here:
>
> 1) MyISAM stores the row count internally, a 'select count(*) from table'
> DOES NOT DO A FULL TABLE SCAN
> 2) hell, a software RAID6 of 2 MFM drives could do a seek to the metadata
> faster then 4 minutes..
>
> But lets remember that if another thread is writing or updating the MyISAM
> table, the count(*) must wait..
>
> So I recommend this:
>
> run a select count(*) from the table that you see is long.. if it is taking
> a long time open another session, do a show processlist
>
> I bet you that you will see another process updating or deleting or
> inserting into the MyISAM table.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:35, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i did google search - myisam is faster...i am not really doing any
>> transaction stuff.
>> thanks
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Moore <eroomy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Sorry, hit send by accident there! *face palm*
>> > Just had a quick scan of the report. You've got 2 1GB disks in software
>> raid
>> > - RAID1 or RAID5? I can also see you're creating a lot of temporary
>> files on
>> > disk. I think in your previous email that your biggest table's index(s)
>> were
>> > larger then the keybuffer size. I would suspect that you're disk bound
>> with
>> > limited IO performance through 2 disks and effectively 1 if in a
>> mirrored
>> > configuration. The stats show that you're configured for MyISAM and that
>> > you're tables are taking reads and writes (read heavy though), MyISAM
>> > doesn't like high concurrency mixed workloads such as yours, it will
>> cause
>> > locking and maybe thats why your count has such a delay. Such activity
>> may
>> > be better suited to InnoDB engine (you must configure and tune for this,
>> not
>> > JUST change the engine).
>> > HTH
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Moore <eroomy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Joey, does your 'large' table get
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Joey L <mjh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> here is mysqlreport ---
>> >>> ------------------------------------------------
>> >>> root@rider:~/tmp# ./mysqlreport --user root --password barakobomb
>> >>> Use of uninitialized value $is in multiplication (*) at ./mysqlreport
>> >>> line 829.
>> >>> Use of uninitialized value in formline at ./mysqlreport line 1227.
>> >>> MySQL 5.1.49-3-log       uptime 0 0:25:5        Thu Oct  6 10:20:49
>> 2011
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Key
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >>> Buffer used   727.43M of   2.00G  %Used:  35.52
>> >>>  Current     963.24M            %Usage:  47.03
>> >>> Write hit      29.41%
>> >>> Read hit       99.79%
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Questions
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> >>> Total          50.20k    33.4/s
>> >>>  QC Hits      32.56k    21.6/s  %Total:  64.87
>> >>>  DMS          12.28k     8.2/s           24.46
>> >>>  Com_          3.21k     2.1/s            6.39
>> >>>  COM_QUIT      2.89k     1.9/s            5.76
>> >>>  -Unknown        745     0.5/s            1.48
>> >>> Slow 10 s          68     0.0/s            0.14  %DMS:   0.55  Log:
>> OFF
>> >>> DMS            12.28k     8.2/s           24.46
>> >>>  SELECT       11.09k     7.4/s           22.10         90.36
>> >>>  UPDATE          539     0.4/s            1.07          4.39
>> >>>  INSERT          384     0.3/s            0.77          3.13
>> >>>  DELETE          260     0.2/s            0.52          2.12
>> >>>  REPLACE           0       0/s            0.00          0.00
>> >>> Com_            3.21k     2.1/s            6.39
>> >>>  set_option    1.10k     0.7/s            2.20
>> >>>  show_fields   1.03k     0.7/s            2.05
>> >>>  admin_comma     707     0.5/s            1.41
>> >>>
>> >>> __ SELECT and Sort
>> _____________________________________________________
>> >>> Scan            1.65k     1.1/s %SELECT:  14.87
>> >>> Range             493     0.3/s            4.44
>> >>> Full join         310     0.2/s            2.79
>> >>> Range check       339     0.2/s            3.06
>> >>> Full rng join       0       0/s            0.00
>> >>> Sort scan         887     0.6/s
>> >>> Sort range        628     0.4/s
>> >>> Sort mrg pass       0       0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Query Cache
>> _________________________________________________________
>> >>> Memory usage    5.96M of  16.00M  %Used:  37.25
>> >>> Block Fragmnt   5.17%
>> >>> Hits           32.56k    21.6/s
>> >>> Inserts         5.66k     3.8/s
>> >>> Insrt:Prune   5.66k:1     3.8/s
>> >>> Hit:Insert     5.76:1
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Table Locks
>> _________________________________________________________
>> >>> Waited            513     0.3/s  %Total:   3.62
>> >>> Immediate      13.65k     9.1/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Tables
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> >>> Open             1024 of 1024    %Cache: 100.00
>> >>> Opened         14.96k     9.9/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Connections
>> _________________________________________________________
>> >>> Max used           70 of  100      %Max:  70.00
>> >>> Total           2.89k     1.9/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Created Temp
>> ________________________________________________________
>> >>> Disk table      1.34k     0.9/s
>> >>> Table           2.35k     1.6/s    Size:  32.0M
>> >>> File                5     0.0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Threads
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> >>> Running            32 of   37
>> >>> Cached              0 of    8      %Hit:  93.26
>> >>> Created           195     0.1/s
>> >>> Slow                0       0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Aborted
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> >>> Clients             0       0/s
>> >>> Connects            2     0.0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ Bytes
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> >>> Sent          100.33M   66.7k/s
>> >>> Received       12.48M    8.3k/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ InnoDB Buffer Pool
>> __________________________________________________
>> >>> Usage           1.67M of   8.00M  %Used:  20.90
>> >>> Read hit       99.70%
>> >>> Pages
>> >>>  Free            405            %Total:  79.10
>> >>>  Data            107                     20.90 %Drty:   0.00
>> >>>  Misc              0                      0.00
>> >>>  Latched                                  0.00
>> >>> Reads          26.18k    17.4/s
>> >>>  From file        78     0.1/s            0.30
>> >>>  Ahead Rnd         2     0.0/s
>> >>>  Ahead Sql         1     0.0/s
>> >>> Writes              3     0.0/s
>> >>> Flushes             3     0.0/s
>> >>> Wait Free           0       0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> __ InnoDB Lock
>> _________________________________________________________
>> >>> Waits               0       0/s
>> >>> Current             0
>> >>> Time acquiring
>> >>>  Total             0 ms
>> >>>  Average           0 ms
>> >>>  Max               0 ms
>> >>>
>> >>> __ InnoDB Data, Pages, Rows
>> ____________________________________________
>> >>> Data
>> >>>  Reads            96     0.1/s
>> >>>  Writes           12     0.0/s
>> >>>  fsync            11     0.0/s
>> >>>  Pending
>> >>>    Reads           0
>> >>>    Writes          0
>> >>>    fsync           0
>> >>>
>> >>> Pages
>> >>>  Created           0       0/s
>> >>>  Read            107     0.1/s
>> >>>  Written           3     0.0/s
>> >>>
>> >>> Rows
>> >>>  Deleted           0       0/s
>> >>>  Inserted          0       0/s
>> >>>  Read         20.98k    13.9/s
>> >>>  Updated           0       0/s
>> >>> root@rider:~/tmp#
>> >>>
>> >>> and the mysqltuner.pl report :
>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> root@rider:~/tmp# perl mysqltuner.pl
>> >>>
>> >>>  >>  MySQLTuner 1.2.0 - Major Hayden <ma...@mhtx.net>
>> >>>  >>  Bug reports, feature requests, and downloads at
>> >>> http://mysqltuner.com/
>> >>>  >>  Run with '--help' for additional options and output filtering
>> >>> Please enter your MySQL administrative login: root
>> >>> Please enter your MySQL administrative password:
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- General Statistics
>> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >>> [--] Skipped version check for MySQLTuner script
>> >>> [OK] Currently running supported MySQL version 5.1.49-3-log
>> >>> [OK] Operating on 64-bit architecture
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- Storage Engine Statistics
>> >>> -------------------------------------------
>> >>> [--] Status: +Archive -BDB -Federated +InnoDB -ISAM -NDBCluster
>> >>> [--] Data in MyISAM tables: 7G (Tables: 2408)
>> >>> [--] Data in InnoDB tables: 1M (Tables: 37)
>> >>> [!!] Total fragmented tables: 49
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- Security Recommendations
>> >>>  -------------------------------------------
>> >>> [OK] All database users have passwords assigned
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- Performance Metrics
>> >>> -------------------------------------------------
>> >>> [--] Up for: 26m 26s (54K q [34.593 qps], 2K conn, TX: 110M, RX: 13M)
>> >>> [--] Reads / Writes: 90% / 10%
>> >>> [--] Total buffers: 2.1G global + 2.6M per thread (100 max threads)
>> >>> [OK] Maximum possible memory usage: 2.3G (19% of installed RAM)
>> >>> [OK] Slow queries: 0% (69/54K)
>> >>> [OK] Highest usage of available connections: 70% (70/100)
>> >>> [OK] Key buffer size / total MyISAM indexes: 2.0G/9.2G
>> >>> [OK] Key buffer hit rate: 99.8% (363M cached / 745K reads)
>> >>> [OK] Query cache efficiency: 76.1% (36K cached / 47K selects)
>> >>> [OK] Query cache prunes per day: 0
>> >>> [OK] Sorts requiring temporary tables: 0% (0 temp sorts / 1K sorts)
>> >>> [!!] Joins performed without indexes: 689
>> >>> [!!] Temporary tables created on disk: 36% (1K on disk / 4K total)
>> >>> [OK] Thread cache hit rate: 93% (198 created / 2K connections)
>> >>> [!!] Table cache hit rate: 6% (1K open / 14K opened)
>> >>> [!!] Open file limit used: 89% (1K/2K)
>> >>> [OK] Table locks acquired immediately: 96% (14K immediate / 14K locks)
>> >>> [OK] InnoDB data size / buffer pool: 1.2M/8.0M
>> >>>
>> >>> -------- Recommendations
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> General recommendations:
>> >>>    Run OPTIMIZE TABLE to defragment tables for better performance
>> >>>    MySQL started within last 24 hours - recommendations may be
>> inaccurate
>> >>>    Enable the slow query log to troubleshoot bad queries
>> >>>    Adjust your join queries to always utilize indexes
>> >>>    When making adjustments, make tmp_table_size/max_heap_table_size
>> equal
>> >>>    Reduce your SELECT DISTINCT queries without LIMIT clauses
>> >>>    Increase table_cache gradually to avoid file descriptor limits
>> >>> Variables to adjust:
>> >>>    join_buffer_size (> 8.0K, or always use indexes with joins)
>> >>>    tmp_table_size (> 32M)
>> >>>    max_heap_table_size (> 32M)
>> >>>    table_cache (> 1024)
>> >>>    open_files_limit (> 2158)
>> >>>
>> >>> root@rider:~/tmp#
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Rik Wasmus <r...@grib.nl> wrote:
>> >>> >> thanks for the response - but do not believe queries are the issue
>> >>> >> because - Like I said - i have other websites doing the same exact
>> >>> >> queries as I am doing on the site with the 9gig table.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Contrary to popular believe, size DOES matter... And having a table
>> >>> > large
>> >>> > enough so it doesn't fit in memory could require another approach
>> >>> > entirely for
>> >>> > query optimization.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Another good start would be to examine the output of mysqlreport, it
>> >>> > will tel
>> >>> > you a lot.
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Rik Wasmus
>> >>> >
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