PeterWR wrote:
>
> Hi Van,
>
> I have no experience with Progress software.
>
> Once, Progress must have seen their approach as the right way. That they
> sonner or later see a need to change, does not approved the way it is done.
>
> In short term, the "clients" for the NuSphere are already familiar with
> MySQL and subscribers to the mysql-email-listings - we have all access to
> Montys email from yesterday - and hopeful understand the issues and remain
> loyal.
> Actually it is the same channels NuSphere have used for spreading their
> message (and right now they are reading what we are writing). This is the
> best (only) current channel to the MySQL community.
>
> I will call on anybody having web-sites, where they provide software to
> MySQL, providing support or information, selling books or what so ever - to
> add an easy readable message to their website ...
>
> "We support / contribute to the original MySQL initiative at www.mysql.com"
> (or something like that)
>
> ... and by that make it clear to newcomers, that there are something to be
> aware of.
>
> Best regards
> Peter
>
Peter:
All valid insights. And, it's either fortunate, or unfortunate that the MySQL
presence is so higly watched. All our comments are siphoned into google, yahoo,
and altavista as a matter of course. The legacy of postings on this list has
created that process. We should feel somewhat validated by that process.
Useful things will be mirrored. A good thing, I'd think; including/especially
discussion groups.
The trademark issue is alarming. It will cause some problems, but, suggestions
such as yours will alleviate the problem over time, and, this will pass.
I was extremely encouraged by Monty's response to this whole thing. He's such a
humble and reserved individual, and to his credit.
We need to remember that Monty built this monster (or, more accurately,
intelligently built something good that turned into this monster), and, ensure
he gets due credit. When he spoke up on this, it was undoubtedly with
thoughtful effort he composed that response. Not your typical 15-second Monty
reply.
So, we'll work it out here on our own fronts and ensure MySQL.com is referred to
on our sites. Simple task. Always has been on mine.
The legal beagles at MySQL AB will have to invoice a little more, which sucks,
but, these are interesting times.
Our lot is to promote an awesome db that and has been awesome for longer than
Internet memory allows for (trust me; sadly, Internet memory doesn't find the
MySQL beginnings except in a few places although my 2 GBytes nsmail folders do).
Let the lawyers do their thing, and, I think what we need to be doing out here
(especially on the list) is simply promote it to our clients, and, anyone who'll
consider it's viability for their needs.
MySQL will definitely meet and beat anything out there in short-time if my 4+
years experience watching Monty and crew work here are any indication.
I touch MSSQL, Oracle, and in the past have touched Progress on projects that
have been important to my clients.
Nothing (in the technical world) excites me like the prospect of implementing
MySQL for those projects.
What we need to do is develop applications that need speed. That will create
the demand for the MySQL server, and, from there, it will propagate.
Monty and crew need to be isolated from these types of issues, so they can
continue to develop in the style they've proven to us works very well.
Progress needs to read what we're saying and look closely at their motivation
for establishing their "presence" with the launch of mysql.org. They might come
around and realize they've attempted to capitalize on Monty's hard-won efforts;
which is really what this whole thing is about, anyway. I truly hope they do
and reconcile this situation so the talented parties can focus on their work:
Monty, and crew; and, there're probably a few pretty talented people at
Progress. I've used it in the past, and, can't say it sucked. Just that it was
an interesting db.
Just think they need to think through this a bit more and give due credit where
due. And, it is much due.
Great Points.
Hope we're all looking at the future. MySQL and our applications are a big part
of that.
Best Regards,
Van
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