The greatest asset to using the MYSQL product over the years has been
this mailing list and Monty's personal efforts to answer almost every 
question, no matter how stupid or repetitive, patiently and accurately.

It's blown my mind to see him working so hard on handling the enormous
communications on this list.  He alone has given more technical support,
provided more training, and is responsible for more enlightenment than
the entire Tech Support hotline of MicroSoft.

All that work is essentially values in the good name MYSQL provides
for the code base.

Nusphere, IMO, in this matter, is a theif, in addition to clearly
violating the GPL under a ridicules pretense.

Monty Widus, even GPL Czar... are you out of your mind....


Give me a break.

When NuShpere was in NYC for the last Linux expo, they gave a presentation
on Gemini.  They clearly indicated that they are hacking at the MYSQL code 
base.  They said NOTHING about making these estenssions propiatory only,
and insisted that they planned on a server oriented business model through
support.

This action by them is a 100% turn around.....

SHAME SHAME SHAME on youi, NuSphere,  for burning up valuable
and scarce economic resources on legal mumbo jumbo NuSphere 
has ZERO chance on winning.  And if they did win, the entire 
Free Software movemnt would undermined.


Ruben


> I would like to whole heartedly add my support to this statement, I feel
> that Gerry has summed up perfectly everything I would like to say. We have
> been using MySQL for well over a year now and have found it to be a fast,
> reliable, efficient and scalable product. I happily recommend the use of it
> to colleagues and use it in my corporate work and when advising charities.
> The efforts of the developers shine through in the excellent performance of
> this product. It is sad to see people taking advantage of their efforts and
> I feel that MySQL AB has not in any way besmirched the principles of open
> source by taking the actions they have taken. 
> 
> best wishes and keep up the wonderful work, you are much appreciated
> 
> Chris
> 
> Dr Christopher Thorpe
> Information Architect
> 
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> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:15 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: mysql.org
> 
> 
> Monty and all at MySQL,
> 
> I am sorry to hear about this most unfortunate situation. It is sad to see
> that NuSphere have taken it upon themselves to attempt to steal your
> intellectual property and try to benefit from all of the MySQL team's 
> hard work. My company has been licensing using MySQL for development of
> our products for the past 18 months or so and I have had nothing but good 
> things to say about MySQL. You are a credit to the open source community 
> and I believe you have found the perfect balance with MySQL for both
> open source and commercial users. 
> 
> Your comments that you totally rely on the trust of your users is admirable 
> and very much appreciated by many people I am sure. However, being the human
> race, there are always people that are going to take liberties and abuse
> such trust. I hope that your legal defence is swift and successful and
> does not cause too much disruption to your day to day business.
> 
> As far as I am concerned, if NuSphere are selling a product derived from 
> MySQL, then they should be paying MySQL.com a license fee to ensure that
> the professionals that are responsible for the creation of MySQL can 
> continue to develop MySQL. 
> 
> We *embed* MySQL into our products and pay commercial license fees for the
> use of MySQL. Having dealt with MySQL at a commercial level, I can honestly
> say that, there is absolutely no excuse for what NuSphere have done. Your
> licensing policies have been totally fair, non-restrictive and realistic.
> 
> Needless to say, You have our full support and rest assured I, or anyone
> who works at my company will not have anything to do with either mysql.org
> or NuSphere now or in the future. 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Gerry Sweeney
> Hornbill Systems Limited
> 
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