%% Chadrick Mahaffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  cm> How do I start the server and create a database in plain English. I'm not
  cm> familiar with:
  cm> SECTION 4.16 ----- Documentation

  shell> ./scripts/mysql_install_db
  shell> cd mysql_installation_directory
  shell> ./bin/safe_mysqld --user=mysql &

  shell> cd mysql_installation_directory
  shell> ./bin/mysql_install_db
  shell> ./bin/safe_mysqld --user=mysql &

  cm> what does all this mean?

These are the commands and instructions for installing MySQL on a UNIX
box.  They are UNIX shell commands, not Windows DOS commands.

You need to find the commands and instructions for installing MySQL on a
Windows box, if that's what you are using.

  cm> Open source would go much farther if they had self explanatory
  cm> GUIs and had basic pre-setup apps that were ready for the average
  cm> user to use. I program in Java and I feel the same about the JDK
  cm> Sun produces. I use JCreator because it has an easy to follow GUI
  cm> interface. Most open source apps I have attempted to use have some
  cm> of the worse documentation around. The writers assume so much
  cm> about the users. OK - call me inept, stupid, or whatever but I had
  cm> to say it.

Open source software is written by technical people.  They do it because
they enjoy it.  Most of them don't get paid for it.

Many technical people don't enjoy writing documentation at all, and
_very_ few enjoy writing documentation at the "complete newbie" level.
If they don't enjoy it, they aren't going to do it for fun.  If someone
who _did_ enjoy it were to volunteer to help, well, that would be great.

Further, you are working on a Windows platform.  Microsoft has, at
almost every turn, expressed its deep-seated hostility for Open Source
software of all kinds, and even the very idea of OS software.  Also,
many developers, esp. those doing OS software which has a very
UNIX-based ancestry, don't _like_ working on Windows, as they don't
think it's a good platform either to use or develop on.  So, naturally
enough you won't find all that many Open Source developers who are very
interested in expending a lot of effort to keep people who use Windows
happy.  They don't want to _encourage_ people to use an environment that
is so hostile to the things they like to do, and they don't like using
Windows themselves.  So, I doubt you'll see a big effort expended on the
part of OS developers to make the Windows-specific parts of their
software simpler.

There are, obviously, some well-known exceptions like the
StarOffice/OpenOffice folks, Emacs, Apache, etc. who do spend a lot of
effort trying to get Windows versions easier to use and install.


If you wanted to buy a support license for MySQL, I'm sure they'd help
you get it installed properly.  If you want to use the free version and
you want to use it on Windows, then, for better or for worse, you're
going to have to get used to life on a second-tier platform :(.

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