Our php users run their scripts under their own username.  this requires 
the performance hit of treating php like any other cgi script (no 
mod_php) but they are on a shared server because they are a low volume 
site. 

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Peter Lovatt wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:20:11 -0000
> From: Peter Lovatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tim Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Securing username and password in script file
> 
> I don't think there is a secure way of running php on a shared server.
> 
> I have a dedicated server which uses this 'property' to have a single shared
> php codebase for about 20 domains and subdomains.
> 
> I looked at ways of securing it but, fundamentally, php under apache runs
> the same user for everyone, so if anyone can read the config file, everyone
> can, if they know where it is.
> 
> Not sure if php under cgi runs as the user.
> 
> If you could configure the webserver to run as the user (and so different
> for each domain) rather than nobody this would cure it. Don't know if this
> is possible.
> 
> This is a problem which could do with addressing really. Any thoughts
> anybody?
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 11 November 2001 01:32
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Securing username and password in script file
> >
> >
> > How does one go about securing database access username and password
> > information that's kept in a script's config file?
> >
> > Most of the PHP and Perl applications floating around Sourceforge, as
> > well as most of the commercially available scripts, store the database
> > access username and password in a config file. This can be called
> > anything, and can be kept either inside or outside the htdocs area on
> > website. It doesn't matter for my example.
> >
> > This file needs to be readable by the process running the web server
> > (typically nobody on Linux shared servers running Apache).
> >
> > Once I know where this file is stored by the application relative to the
> > user's root directory, and it's name, on most if not all the shared
> > server configurations hosting websites around the world, I can simply
> > open the file using the pathname to the file and read and display it, or
> > require it and then display the username and password variables, etc.
> > This of course I'm doing from another user account on the server.
> >
> > In the case of a popular forum script written in PHP, I was able to
> > discover more than one other config file on my server and read it's
> > contents. I notified the owner of the site that I was able to do this,
> > however I had no suggestions for him to protect his information from
> > anyone else who might want to do the same.
> >
> > In a shared server environment where the files must be readable by the
> > webserver process, and there is one web server "user" on the shared
> > server, how can you protect this information?  Are you simply screwed?
> > If so, than much of the world is screwed...
> >
> > Any ideas on how to secure this situation?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> >
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Sincerely,

William Mussatto, Senior Systems Engineer
CyberStrategies, Inc
ph. 909-920-9154 ext. 27


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