At 07:16 2002-01-11, Michael T. Babcock wrote: >On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 08:55:35PM +0100, Marjolein Katsma wrote: >> That proves it's a REAL problem for subscribers to this list. > >No, it proves that some subscribers (like yourself) have real problems. > >Your E-mails will all be blacklisted at my border if I see you whining >about this on-list again;
So? > whine to the administrators _in private_. This is a matter that concerns all members of this list. If I am in a minority, fine. But even a minority should have a voice. The fact that people are actually *leaving* this list because of the continuing spam should give the administrators (and you ) a clue. Wouldn't they rather lose the spammers than valuable list members? >> >If you raise the noise ratio from .5% to 2.5% by whining >> >so much, who is really the problem? >> >> The list management - because they do not limit posting to subscribers only. > >Your logic skills are extremely lacking. The list administration did not >require you to post your whining to the list. I don't want to hear what you >have to say about spam; I ignore the spam as, obviously, do the hundreds of >other subscribers not whining on the list. My logic skills are fine. The list administrators are forcing me to pay for downloading the spam they let through. They should not. I don't mind paying for member's posts, I do mind paying for spam. As long as spam is allowed here, this will keep coming up. Ignoring spam is not a solution - we *all* pay for it because of the huge costs involved with the bandwidth it takes up. >PS, I post to a lot of lists I'm not a member of. So do I. > The ones that _require_ >membership for me to post lose my traffic as well as my use of their software. The ones that do not require membership to post *all* suffer from spam. Hence I much prefer posting by members only. database,sql,query,table -- Marjolein Katsma HomeSite Help - http://hshelp.com/ - Extensions, Tips and Tools The Bookstore - http://books.hshelp.com/ - Books for webmasters and webrookies --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php