I am an experienced programmed and have worked on Unix and with Oracle and Informix for many years.
I personally am struggling to get my head around Mysql (getting there now though) I think part of the reason I am posting simple questions is. 1.) I find the manual quite combersome for particular reference, ie I found finding information on adding users and the like quite hard to find easy and had to trawl through "similar topics" when someone on this list got me on the right track straight away and it was easy to reference the manual from the info given on this list. 2.) My past experience in other languages and RDBMS is hindering my quite bad, ie I am expecting certain restuls from certain situations and not getting them, somethings that seem quite straight forward to people using mysql is totally confusing for someone used to other products. 3.) There is a lot of conflicting information. I have a number of books on Mysql and some conradict each other and the manual, so the only way to make sure is to play/test the methods mentioned, then ask the list when something doesn't make scense 4.) People of All levels join and leave the list each day (I imagane) so reposts are quite common, If they do not apply to me or I don't feel I can help I delete them, otherwist I reply, the number or reposts is becoming a problem due (in my opinion) to a select few "elite" mysql people, who have strong skills with MySql and have been using it for a while, instead of ignoring the reposts (which I am sure they have seen hundereds of times) they reply back with harsh (again my opinion) or acidic comments, like this was posted 3 days ago, read the manual before wasting our time. This points out peoples re-posts to others who are not so bothered, if they just deleted what did not apply I am sure someone of similar level to the question poster would reply with a helpfull comment. On the other hand these elitist people do provide good info when needed so I don't intend to be too blaming on them. I really like the way this list works, and I have found %90 usefull and had some really indepth discussions on even the simplist questions, giving me a better understanding of the problem that I first asked. Not sure how close to the mark I am but I thought I would put my opinion in. Matt. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lucier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 19:55 To: jds; Patrick Crowley; Keith C. Ivey Cc: MySQL List Subject: RE: Spam A little higher barrier to entry, even for non-spam posts might not be a bad thing. The list is already pretty well spammed with questions that are either in the manual, or result from a lack of programming experience in general. Making it harder to post might make it a little easier to stay subscribed.... --- jds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ummm. you go ahead with that and noone will stay on the list. > > again, now with my stupid reply, there has been more posts about spam > > than actual spam. > > let's do the list a favor and put this thread to bed. > > jOda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:16 AM > To: Keith C. Ivey > Cc: MySQL List > Subject: Re: Spam > > > I have to say I'm shocked that the list is completely open. That's > such a > stupid newbie thing to do. > > Maybe we should initiate a spam strike until the list mom/dad > listens. Just > subscribe the list to *another* list, and watch the fun begin... > > best, > patrick crowley > > mokolabs>> > making sure the future doesn't suck... > > w > http://mokolabs.com > e > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p > 646.591.5477 > > > > Why *isn't* posting to the MySQL list restricted to subscribers? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Before posting, please check: > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) > > To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, e-mail > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Trouble unsubscribing? 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