asp can do allot of client side possibly security risky stuff where php cant
-----Original Message----- From: Alan McDonald [mailto:alan@;meta.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul DuBois Cc: MySQL Subject: RE: PHP bias (Way OT) I agree mostly,... but why is ASP worthless? Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vanboers@;why.dedserius.com]On > Behalf Of Van > Sent: Monday, 11 November 2002 6:21 > To: Paul DuBois > Cc: MySQL > Subject: Re: PHP bias (Way OT) > > > Paul: > > Not sure why my post didn't cc to the list, originally. I think > I picked up on > your tone, but the one thing I had intended to add was the > dynamic that the more > I do this stuff, the more I find myself just having to "get over" > some of the > more ugly and cludged implementations due to limitations in what our > end-users/clients are willing to let us do. In other words: who cares. > They'll never really look at it that closely and if another > developer comes in > several years later to make any changes/enhancements, they'll > probably just do a > rewrite. > > Once upon a time, I thought you could code elegantly, and C/C++ > is about the > only realm in which I see this to still be possible. PHP/ASP and > _especially!!!_ ColdFusion are impossible to write elegant and > easy to document > code, but I think PHP is the best of these evils since it has such a huge > function set. ASP is worthless for other reasons, and CF is just > disgusting to > look at. > > I _realize_ Perl is fast, and powerful. I really _do_ realize > that. But, it's > ugly. It looks like Snoopy swearing characters, and you can talk > (write) about > how it's elegant until you're blue in the face, but show it to a > CIO/CFO and > they'll tell you it's ugly, and they're quite correct. > > But, people program in it extensively, and do great things with > it; it's just > ugly. And, so are most implementations. In a perfect world, > everyone would use > C/C++, but they don't and I don't care. I'll use it if I choose > to. I'll use > Perl to do quick and dirty things. And, I'll code ColdFusion if > someone is > offering me money to do so. At the end of the day, no > programming/technology is > pretty; where are those beer nuts. > > And, BTW, clearly there's no one better equipped to point out > your original > thoughts on what _can_ be done in Perl. > > --mysql, table, drop, explain, database-- > > Best Regards, > Van > -- > ================================================================= > Linux rocks!!! http://www.dedserius.com/ > ================================================================= > Paul DuBois wrote: > > (some stuff I snipped) > > http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-perl/ > > > > >You can do all these things from perl. Or PHP, or CF, or ASP. > Just pass your > > >variables to an external web-server running it's own > proprietary web database > > >and you'll get what you need. > > > > > >Sorry; am I speaking out of step, here? We all do this... I > run MySQL on my > > >own servers, but my clients are still pretty thick-headed... they > > >use M$Access > > >and ColdFusion. And, I can still drop and add columns through a > > >web-interface. > > >It's very ugly, but it still works. Is there anyone here > making a living that > > >doesn't have to work through such interface-specific things? > > > > > >Didn't think so; but, in a perfect world, we'd all be doing > things ANSI SQL > > >92... Whatever... pass the beer nuts. >:) > > > > > >Van > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Before posting, please check: > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) > > To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, e-mail > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
