Can I just say that I received the Eco SO gel samples..... easy to put on.  And 
it only took me 5 minutes to soak off, the other brands I've used take at least 
15 minutes.  


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From: "ela...@starnail.com" <elainefromma...@gmail.com> 
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:34:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different 

Thanks Angela!  It's funny how I don't think of things at the time I'm writing 
but think of them after.  One thing that I know techs can definitely do with my 
formula...is mix colors to make new colors.  And that is much easier with a pot 
than it is with bottles.  I'm not sure if the other formulas can mix to make 
new colors so you'll have to check with the manufacturer of other products.  
But Eco (Star Nail) and Pronto (our CuccioPro brand) can be mixed (two or more 
colors) to create custom colors without fear of instability. 

:) Elaine 









Kind Regards, 
Elaine T. Watson 
Star Nail International 
Vice President of Marketing and Sales 
Global Education Director 
800.782.7624 extension 321 
fax 661.257.5847 
ela...@starnail.com 
Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com 



On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Angela R Wingerter < awinger...@sbcglobal.net 
> wrote: 






Elaine, 

I was thinking the same thing about the bottle vs pot. I like 
using pots. You can use every bit of it. And for the price of this stuff that 
means a lot to me. I was just thinking today, I wonder how long its going to 
be before we start seeing mini uv nail lamps and gel polish in walmart. I do 
like using the bottle to do a french though. I have more control of the white 
gel with the bottle brush but I'll eventually get rid of the bottle. I agree 
with you about using the pot makes it more of a service that doesn't get people 
thinking, well I could do this!   
  
Angie Wingerter 





From: " ela...@starnail.com " < elainefromma...@gmail.com > 
To: nailtech@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:49:34 PM 

Subject: Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different 




Thank you, Sheryl.  I didn't want you to take any offense in what I said 
either.  And, please, don't take that as correcting you.  You are correct in 
what you say (for many manufacturers).  I simply like to clarify where Star 
stands. 

To everyone else: 

History in the Nail Industry is being made.  For the first time in decades we 
finally have a brand new category.  It doesn't fall into Manicure or 
Artificial.  There isn't extension.  It's a polish alternative (again as we 
suggest it).  It is a great opportunity, for us as techs, to take back our 
clients from the discount salons by offering UV color instead of polish color.  
This is exciting. 

And right now, there is a TON of choices flooding the industry.  Just sit back 
and relax.  In a few years it will narrow down.  The brands that are successful 
will still be around.  

Incidentally, the talk going around about bottle vs pot.  I certainly could 
have put mine into a bottle, but here are some reasons why I felt it wouldn't 
work for "my" formula.  The viscosity is thicker than traditional polish (our 
brand not every brand).  So a little metal ball in the bottle would not be able 
to safely mix the product.  True pigment can settle to some degree.  
Traditional white gel (non soak) that we've been selling for decades still 
needs to be stirred to keep the titanium dioxide from settling.  Next, I felt 
that the traditional neck of the bottle was too small.  When I put my formula 
into the bottle..and you pull the brush out...lots of gel is coming off the 
neck of the brush and into the neck of the bottle.  It's very easy to have it 
get trapped by air escaping and cause the gel to bottle neck and go down the 
outside of the bottle.  Again, I want to be VERY clear..."our formula not every 
formula".   And lastly, I'm tired of things being easy for our "clients" to do 
them.  I felt in a pot with a brush says, "you can't do this if you're not a 
tech".  I finally had something to bring people back to my customers salons.  I 
don't want it to be the next "polish" found in drugstores. 

I sooooooooo wouldn't want to be a tech right now with all this information 
coming at you.  I REALLY sympathize with your situations!  Too much is coming 
at you.  The best way you all can make your decision is just trying a little of 
everyone's product and deciding for yourself what works better for you.  That's 
how I've always done it. 

Good luck to each of you.....I hope what ever brand you choose, that you're 
successful with it.  And that your business grows to what it was before all the 
discount salons came to town. 

Kind Regards, 
Elaine T. Watson 
Star Nail International 
Vice President of Marketing and Sales 
Global Education Director 
800.782.7624 extension 321 
fax 661.257.5847 
ela...@starnail.com 
Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com 




On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Sheryl GOldberg < sgna...@gmail.com > wrote: 






Elaine, 



  I have not had any experience with your products, so I have made No 
Statements about Your Products. I understand your product is also new.  I was 
commenting on what has been in the past, when my opinion on something new was 
asked for. 



    If a company  “Names” a product a “Manicure” I would think it should fall 
into the manicure category, not try to slip an enhancement produce in as a 
manicure, which is what SOG in the past has been. Also most of us remember a 
Man in the “Airbrushing Industry” who tried to convince us all to give up 
polish and  airbrush everyone, charging extra to put color on their nails.  It 
did not fly back then either. Some people don’t care what their cuticles look 
like as long as they have polish on. I have seen this with people who go to 
Deep Discount Salons. 



 I have charged extra for polish when it cost me extra like some of OPI’s 
Diamond Dust at $7 a bottle. If it cost me more it is going to cost the client 
more.   I agree that this should be an additional charge on top of a manicure 
and not an $80 enhancement charge. Techs could double the manicure charge since 
they would be coming back in two weeks instead of one, and it will cover the 
time and cost. It depends on the market in their area. That’s what we all 
thought “No Chip Manicures” were going to be, but they fooled us. 



 The products being “buzzed” in the past did not deliver what they were 
advertising. I, and many of the other Nail Professionals had been “Turned Off” 
to the idea of a “No Chip Manicure” after feeling we had wasted hard earned 
money. As I said before I understand your Product is a new one, and I have No 
Experience with it. So Please don’t take offence, because non was offered. I 
was very happy to see that Our Industry has taken a big step forward! 



I wish you nothing but the best with your New Products, 




Sheryl Goldberg 

Licensed Nail Tech/Educator 

sgna...@gmail.com 









That's my ramble.  LOL 


OH and one last thing.  I don't think you all should feel guilty about using 
buzz words to advertise your services.  The buzz words are smart marketing with 
one goal.  Drive clients to your door not your competition.  There is nothing 
wrong with that, so long as you deliver what you are advertising. 




Kind Regards, 
Elaine T. Watson 
Star Nail International 
Vice President of Marketing and Sales 
Global Education Director 
800.782.7624 extension 321 
fax 661.257.5847 
ela...@starnail.com 
Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com 














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