You caught my use of "properly" - lol! On 4/29/10, Michelle Phoenix <wetpaintnail...@gmail.com> wrote: > I get ya. Frankly, I'm afraid my clients wouldn't be patient enough to > soak off properly at home and would hurt their nails. They're always > in such a hurry. =) > > Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician > Wet Paint Nail Spa > www.wetpaintnailspa.com > > On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Becky <enhandsme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nope, she's just getting a little discount on the first visit because >> there's no removal needed. If she soaks off properly at home, I won't >> charge the $5. My regular price will be $35 for now, first visit is >> $30. >> >> On 4/29/10, Michelle Phoenix <wetpaintnail...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Why do you cahrge for removal? Aren't you kind of getting her coming >>> and going? >>> >>> Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician >>> Wet Paint Nail Spa >>> www.wetpaintnailspa.com >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Becky <enhandsme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I tried Eco for the very first time last night - client told me she >>>> LOVES them today- I only used the pink and clear! She said they are >>>> super shiny and natural looking. Her "manicure" lasted 30 minutes. I >>>> told her in two weeks I at least want to see them - and I had told >>>> her >>>> that if we soak them off, it will be $5 + cost of manicure then cost >>>> of new SOG color - total $35. Told her to come 20 min early and I >>>> will >>>> set her up "soaking off". She will be ready to go when I'm done with >>>> my client. 30 min again, out the door. She's my only natural nail >>>> client (I expect that to change) and so 30 min is what I plan to >>>> make >>>> happen! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/29/10, hlaure...@comcast.net <hlaure...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can I just say that I received the Eco SO gel samples..... easy to >>>>> put on. >>>>> And it only took me 5 minutes to soak off, the other brands I've >>>>> used take >>>>> at least 15 minutes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "ela...@starnail.com" <elainefromma...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: nailtech@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:34:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>>>> Eastern >>>>> Subject: Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Angela! It's funny how I don't think of things at the time >>>>> I'm >>>>> writing but think of them after. One thing that I know techs can >>>>> definitely >>>>> do with my formula...is mix colors to make new colors. And that is >>>>> much >>>>> easier with a pot than it is with bottles. I'm not sure if the >>>>> other >>>>> formulas can mix to make new colors so you'll have to check with >>>>> the >>>>> manufacturer of other products. But Eco (Star Nail) and Pronto >>>>> (our >>>>> CuccioPro brand) can be mixed (two or more colors) to create custom >>>>> colors >>>>> without fear of instability. >>>>> >>>>> :) Elaine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Elaine T. Watson >>>>> Star Nail International >>>>> Vice President of Marketing and Sales >>>>> Global Education Director >>>>> 800.782.7624 extension 321 >>>>> fax 661.257.5847 >>>>> ela...@starnail.com >>>>> Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Angela R Wingerter < >>>>> awinger...@sbcglobal.net > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Elaine, >>>>> >>>>> I was thinking the same thing about the bottle vs pot. I like >>>>> using pots. You can use every bit of it. And for the price of this >>>>> stuff >>>>> that means a lot to me. I was just thinking today, I wonder how >>>>> long its >>>>> going to be before we start seeing mini uv nail lamps and gel >>>>> polish in >>>>> walmart. I do like using the bottle to do a french though. I have >>>>> more >>>>> control of the white gel with the bottle brush but I'll eventually >>>>> get rid >>>>> of the bottle. I agree with you about using the pot makes it more >>>>> of a >>>>> service that doesn't get people thinking, well I could do this! >>>>> >>>>> Angie Wingerter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: " ela...@starnail.com " < elainefromma...@gmail.com > >>>>> To: nailtech@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:49:34 PM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, Sheryl. I didn't want you to take any offense in what I >>>>> said >>>>> either. And, please, don't take that as correcting you. You are >>>>> correct in >>>>> what you say (for many manufacturers). I simply like to clarify >>>>> where Star >>>>> stands. >>>>> >>>>> To everyone else: >>>>> >>>>> History in the Nail Industry is being made. For the first time in >>>>> decades >>>>> we finally have a brand new category. It doesn't fall into >>>>> Manicure or >>>>> Artificial. There isn't extension. It's a polish alternative >>>>> (again as we >>>>> suggest it). It is a great opportunity, for us as techs, to take >>>>> back our >>>>> clients from the discount salons by offering UV color instead of >>>>> polish >>>>> color. This is exciting. >>>>> >>>>> And right now, there is a TON of choices flooding the industry. >>>>> Just sit >>>>> back and relax. In a few years it will narrow down. The brands >>>>> that are >>>>> successful will still be around. >>>>> >>>>> Incidentally, the talk going around about bottle vs pot. I >>>>> certainly could >>>>> have put mine into a bottle, but here are some reasons why I felt >>>>> it >>>>> wouldn't work for "my" formula. The viscosity is thicker than >>>>> traditional >>>>> polish (our brand not every brand). So a little metal ball in the >>>>> bottle >>>>> would not be able to safely mix the product. True pigment can >>>>> settle to >>>>> some degree. Traditional white gel (non soak) that we've been >>>>> selling for >>>>> decades still needs to be stirred to keep the titanium dioxide from >>>>> settling. Next, I felt that the traditional neck of the bottle was >>>>> too >>>>> small. When I put my formula into the bottle..and you pull the >>>>> brush >>>>> out...lots of gel is coming off the neck of the brush and into the >>>>> neck of >>>>> the bottle. It's very easy to have it get trapped by air escaping >>>>> and cause >>>>> the gel to bottle neck and go down the outside of the bottle. >>>>> Again, I want >>>>> to be VERY clear..."our formula not every formula". And lastly, >>>>> I'm tired >>>>> of things being easy for our "clients" to do them. I felt in a pot >>>>> with a >>>>> brush says, "you can't do this if you're not a tech". I finally >>>>> had >>>>> something to bring people back to my customers salons. I don't >>>>> want it to >>>>> be the next "polish" found in drugstores. >>>>> >>>>> I sooooooooo wouldn't want to be a tech right now with all this >>>>> information >>>>> coming at you. I REALLY sympathize with your situations! Too much >>>>> is >>>>> coming at you. The best way you all can make your decision is just >>>>> trying a >>>>> little of everyone's product and deciding for yourself what works >>>>> better for >>>>> you. That's how I've always done it. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck to each of you.....I hope what ever brand you choose, >>>>> that you're >>>>> successful with it. And that your business grows to what it was >>>>> before all >>>>> the discount salons came to town. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Elaine T. Watson >>>>> Star Nail International >>>>> Vice President of Marketing and Sales >>>>> Global Education Director >>>>> 800.782.7624 extension 321 >>>>> fax 661.257.5847 >>>>> ela...@starnail.com >>>>> Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Sheryl GOldberg < >>>>> sgna...@gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Elaine, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have not had any experience with your products, so I have made >>>>> No >>>>> Statements about Your Products. I understand your product is also >>>>> new. I >>>>> was commenting on what has been in the past, when my opinion on >>>>> something >>>>> new was asked for. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If a company “Names” a product a “Manicure” I would >>>>> think it should >>>>> fall into the manicure category, not try to slip an enhancement >>>>> produce in >>>>> as a manicure, which is what SOG in the past has been. Also most of >>>>> us >>>>> remember a Man in the “Airbrushing Industry” who tried to >>>>> convince us all to >>>>> give up polish and airbrush everyone, charging extra to put color >>>>> on their >>>>> nails. It did not fly back then either. Some people don’t ca >>>>> re wh >>>>> at their >>>>> cuticles look like as long as they have polish on. I have seen this >>>>> with >>>>> people who go to Deep Discount Salons. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have charged extra for polish when it cost me extra like some of >>>>> OPI’s >>>>> Diamond Dust at $7 a bottle. If it cost me more it is going to cost >>>>> the >>>>> client more. I agree that this should be an additional charge on >>>>> top of a >>>>> manicure and not an $80 enhancement charge. Techs could double the >>>>> manicure >>>>> charge since they would be coming back in two weeks instead of one, >>>>> and it >>>>> will cover the time and cost. It depends on the market in their >>>>> area. That’s >>>>> what we all thought “No Chip Manicures” were going to be, but >>>>> they fooled >>>>> us. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The products being “buzzed” in the past did not deliver what >>>>> they were >>>>> advertising. I, and many of the other Nail Professionals had been >>>>> “Turned >>>>> Off” to the idea of a “No Chip Manicure” after feeling we had >>>>> wasted hard >>>>> earned money. As I said before I understand your Product is a new >>>>> one, and I >>>>> have No Experience with it. So Please don’t take offence, because >>>>> non was >>>>> offered. I was very happy to see that Our Industry has taken a big >>>>> step >>>>> forward! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wish you nothing but the best with your New Products, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheryl Goldberg >>>>> >>>>> Licensed Nail Tech/Educator >>>>> >>>>> sgna...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's my ramble. LOL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OH and one last thing. I don't think you all should feel guilty >>>>> about using >>>>> buzz words to advertise your services. The buzz words are smart >>>>> marketing >>>>> with one goal. Drive clients to your door not your competition. >>>>> There is >>>>> nothing wrong with that, so long as you deliver what you are >>>>> advertising. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Elaine T. 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