Have you done "fills" on Shellac and/or Gelish also? If one were to use a file rather than a "finishing machine," what grit would you use? Also... long story short...I accidentally put color gel over one nail that was finished and then again with top coat. The nail looks exactly the same as the others and there have been no consequences after 10 days or more. The thickness looks the same but a bit stronger. *On myself. Nail has: base,color x2,top coat, color gelx1, top coat. *This is with Gelish* Concerning soak off... If we don't get the top coat off all the nail (such as the sidewalls that are sometimes difficult) will all the product still come off? Thank You In Advance!!! Della Kemp Brownsburg, Indiana Area In a message dated 9/23/2010 11:34:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sa...@manicuresthatlast.com writes:
Marsha, Yes that is what I understand, gels that are not formulated to cure in a LED lamp will either not cure properly or will cause extreme heat spikes. I have no real proof to give you but I do know I heard that maybe even from Elaine. Absolutely you can fill eco. If you are using the same color, lightly take it down, prep and reapply. So the application really should never get very thick at all. One extra coat of extremely thin base should not make a huge difference in thickness. I have glitter on my tips now - base, color, color with glitter, clear. I would have to say they are slightly thicker than regular polish, but no where near as thick as even salon acrylics might be. They really are quite thin still even with the glitter. O can take a barrel picture if you like. Lorraine At 10:10 PM 9/23/2010, you wrote: Interesting Kelley. So your nails don't get too thick by adding new Eco over old? I'll be waiting to hear how long it takes to completely remove the Eco, when that time comes. I think I read Elaine says you can fill Eco. I also think I read on this list, that the LED lamp cures gels which are formulated to cure in a LED lamp. Which I think means other gels either won't cure or will cure but with a huge heat spike. Marsha Rubino Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa 38 First Ave E. Ste. E Kalispell, MT 59901 406-755-3771 From: Kelley Marie <kelleymar...@gmail.com> To: NailTech <nailtech@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 11:53:54 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Research Question. I'd love your answer. Elaine, I use different gels and the same uv lamp ( eco lamp) for them I do one hand at a time, and pull out the cnd lamp for when I polish or use shellac because of the fan in it. I use gelousy one step( 4 ms), star nail thick clear ( 10 yrs ), eco soak off gel( 4 ms), shellac(3ms), and am thinking of trying TEN. before I purchased the eco line I used 2 9 watt lamps one for each hand no timer just leave it on and clients left their hand in till I was ready for it. So I had never used a timer before this summer. I have noticed like Angie that my clients will pull their hand out when the light goes off when before they never did I have found myself telling them " you can just leave that in there please." I guess the benefit of a led lamp for me would be not purchasing bulbs all the time, but I would still have to use my cnd lamp for the shellac would I not? dont know I may just be rambling on here. and for the record, I put on my eco and 2weeks later, lightly file new color, and 2 weeks later lightly file and a new color. so I now have 3 layers of eco on my finger nails and they still are in wonderful shape! ( this stuff rocks! I just want to change my polish all the time now that I can wear it .) Kelley Marie On Sep 22, 11:48 am, "_ela...@starnail.com_ (mailto:ela...@starnail.com) " <_ elainefromma...@gmail.com_ (mailto:elainefromma...@gmail.com) > wrote: > I like to think of this emailing list as a little fish bowl of information. > Even when I'm not replying, I'm reading all of your emails and responses. > It frequently helps me with my research. I'm currently working on my next > project. I can't say too much just yet, but I do have a question for each > of you. > > LED vs UV > > Tony and I were getting heavily involved in LED to the point where I've > designed a very special lamp. But while in London I made a startling > discovery while demonstrating Soak Off UV Gel. > > On average, color app takes me about 15 minutes. 20 minutes tops. That > isn't counting prep. I count that in the manicure service. I mean actual > color app. I'm about the same as Polish. My longest cure is 2:00 (color > coats). I was never waiting on the lamp. My 2 min timer would shut the > lamp off just as I was finishing my last nail. So I would immediately put > the hand I was working on in the lamp and take the other hand out without > missing a beat. > > This got me thinking. If I continue on this LED thing....why does 10 > seconds cure time matter? If her coat is cured, but I still take 2 minutes > to apply my next layer, what good is it to be done curing in 10 seconds? It > was really funny that a show attendee that I was demo'ing on was the one > that enlightened me to this. I'm so busy with work stuff here, that I > didn't think like a tech and observe this all on my own. > > I need arguments for both sides. I just am not so sure I want to continue > my LED project unless it is really going to be something beneficial to all > of you. > > Thanks to you all, in advance. > > Kind Regards, > Elaine T. Watson > Star Nail International > Vice President of Marketing and Sales > Global Education Director > 800.782.7624 extension 321 > fax 661.257.5856 > _ela...@starnail.com_ (mailto:ela...@starnail.com) > Blog: _itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com_ (http://itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com/) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to _nailt...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:nailtech@googlegroups.com) . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+_ unsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en_ (http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en) . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to nailt...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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