Lorraine,

I did my fills with a different color than I had on when
I started out w a custom color and saved the extra and 2 weeks later I added
more gel to it to make it more red and the the next fill I added flamingo to
make it more plum. It is interesting to see how many diff colors I can make.


Kelley Marie
On Sep 24, 2010 6:40 AM, <beterkn...@aol.com> wrote:
> Have you done "fills" on Shellac and/or Gelish also? If one were to use a
> file rather than a "finishing machine," what grit would you use?
>
> Also... long story short...I accidentally put color gel over one nail that

> was finished and then again with top coat. The nail looks exactly the same

> as the others and there have been no consequences after 10 days or more.
> The thickness looks the same but a bit stronger. *On myself. Nail has:
> base,color x2,top coat, color gelx1, top coat. *This is with Gelish*
>
> Concerning soak off... If we don't get the top coat off all the nail (such

> as the sidewalls that are sometimes difficult) will all the product still
> come off?
>
> Thank You In Advance!!!
>
> Della Kemp
> Brownsburg, Indiana Area
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/23/2010 11:34:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sa...@manicuresthatlast.com writes:
>
> Marsha,
>
> Yes that is what I understand, gels that are not formulated to cure in a
> LED lamp will either not cure properly or will cause extreme heat spikes.
I
> have no real proof to give you but I do know I heard that maybe even from
> Elaine.
>
> Absolutely you can fill eco. If you are using the same color, lightly take

> it down, prep and reapply. So the application really should never get very

> thick at all.
>
> One extra coat of extremely thin base should not make a huge difference in

> thickness. I have glitter on my tips now - base, color, color with
> glitter, clear. I would have to say they are slightly thicker than regular
polish,
> but no where near as thick as even salon acrylics might be. They really
> are quite thin still even with the glitter. O can take a barrel picture if

> you like.
>
> Lorraine
>
>
> At 10:10 PM 9/23/2010, you wrote:
>
> Interesting Kelley. So your nails don't get too thick by adding new Eco
> over old? I'll be waiting to hear how long it takes to completely remove
the
> Eco, when that time comes. I think I read Elaine says you can fill Eco.
>
> I also think I read on this list, that the LED lamp cures gels which are
> formulated to cure in a LED lamp. Which I think means other gels either
> won't cure or will cure but with a huge heat spike.
>
> Marsha Rubino
> Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa
> 38 First Ave E. Ste. E
> Kalispell, MT 59901
> 406-755-3771
>
>
>
>
> From: Kelley Marie <kelleymar...@gmail.com>
> To: NailTech <nailtech@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 11:53:54 AM
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Research Question. I'd love your answer.
>
> Elaine,
>
> I use different gels and the same uv lamp ( eco lamp) for them I do
> one hand at a time, and pull out the cnd lamp for when I polish or use
> shellac because of the fan in it.
>
> I use gelousy one step( 4 ms), star nail thick clear ( 10 yrs ), eco
> soak off gel( 4 ms), shellac(3ms), and am thinking of trying TEN.
> before I purchased the eco line I used 2 9 watt lamps one for each
> hand no timer just leave it on and clients left their hand in till I
> was ready for it. So I had never used a timer before this summer. I
> have noticed like Angie that my clients will pull their hand out when
> the light goes off when before they never did I have found myself
> telling them " you can just leave that in there please."
>
> I guess the benefit of a led lamp for me would be not purchasing bulbs
> all the time, but I would still have to use my cnd lamp for the
> shellac would I not?
>
> dont know I may just be rambling on here.
>
> and for the record, I put on my eco and 2weeks later, lightly file new
> color, and 2 weeks later lightly file and a new color. so I now have 3
> layers of eco on my finger nails and they still are in wonderful
> shape! ( this stuff rocks! I just want to change my polish all the
> time now that I can wear it .)
>
> Kelley Marie
>
>
> On Sep 22, 11:48 am, "_ela...@starnail.com_ (mailto:ela...@starnail.com) "

> <_ elainefromma...@gmail.com_ (mailto:elainefromma...@gmail.com) >
> wrote:
>> I like to think of this emailing list as a little fish bowl of
> information.
>> Even when I'm not replying, I'm reading all of your emails and responses.
>> It frequently helps me with my research. I'm currently working on my
> next
>> project. I can't say too much just yet, but I do have a question for
> each
>> of you.
>>
>> LED vs UV
>>
>> Tony and I were getting heavily involved in LED to the point where I've
>> designed a very special lamp. But while in London I made a startling
>> discovery while demonstrating Soak Off UV Gel.
>>
>> On average, color app takes me about 15 minutes. 20 minutes tops. That
>> isn't counting prep. I count that in the manicure service. I mean
> actual
>> color app. I'm about the same as Polish. My longest cure is 2:00 (color
>> coats). I was never waiting on the lamp. My 2 min timer would shut the
>> lamp off just as I was finishing my last nail. So I would immediately
> put
>> the hand I was working on in the lamp and take the other hand out without
>> missing a beat.
>>
>> This got me thinking. If I continue on this LED thing....why does 10
>> seconds cure time matter? If her coat is cured, but I still take 2
> minutes
>> to apply my next layer, what good is it to be done curing in 10 seconds?
> It
>> was really funny that a show attendee that I was demo'ing on was the one
>> that enlightened me to this. I'm so busy with work stuff here, that I
>> didn't think like a tech and observe this all on my own.
>>
>> I need arguments for both sides. I just am not so sure I want to
> continue
>> my LED project unless it is really going to be something beneficial to
> all
>> of you.
>>
>> Thanks to you all, in advance.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Elaine T. Watson
>> Star Nail International
>> Vice President of Marketing and Sales
>> Global Education Director
>> 800.782.7624 extension 321
>> fax 661.257.5856
>> _ela...@starnail.com_ (mailto:ela...@starnail.com)
>> Blog: _itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com_ (http://itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com/)

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