Thank you guys, really, all this info is really helping, I'm not sure if it is a acid primer. It's the Primer Pen that came in the Eco kit. What if it is an acid Primer? would that make it lift? I am applying it to the whole nail. Thank you again.
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0500 From: sa...@manicuresthatlast.com Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Great info Rhonda... One other thing I will mention is that most techs who are proficent at traditional hard gel have a little trouble when first using UV Gel polishes. You need to think more "polish" application as opposed to "gel" application. The Metal Mixing tool can be found at: http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/metal-mixing-tool-p-322.html Lorraine, webgirl www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art www.ScentualSpaProducts.com <<--Enhance the Spa Experience Free Shipping on all orders over $75 At 07:05 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote: Veronica, if you are using a primer pen, it is an acid primer. When people say to use it only at the free edge, they are talking about using a non-acid primer, like YN Protein Bond that Patti suggested. We suggest that you only apply it to the free edge because that is usually where you get separation, if you apply to the entire nail, it will never soak off, you have to file off. I would guess, you are either applying too thick and not realizing it or you are getting it on the skin. One of my seasoned techs in the salon "THOUGHT" she was applying it thin, but I did one of her client's this week and all I can say is she uses three times more than I do. Thin, thin, thin and when you think it's thin, make it thinner. Also, we only do two coats of color. If you are doing 3 or 4, with base and top, that's a lot of layers. That thickness alone will make it lift and peel. If you are not getting good color coverage with 2 coats, I really don't think you are stirring your gel enough. ManicuresThatLast sells an awesome spatula that really gets a good stir from the bottom all the way up! Hope this helps! R On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pati <nailg...@aim.com> wrote: try using young nails protein bond... will make removal slightly harder but they stay ON! Pati 'Good friends are like stars... You don't always see them, But you know they are always there. -----Original Message----- From: Veronica Mora <surprise...@hotmail.com > To: nailtech < nailtech@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 5:02 pm Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help Everything i use is ECO or Star Nails. I dont buff the shine, I file with 180 file. I file everywhere on the nail plate. They lift by cuticle and the side walls. I will try no primer tonight and let you know how that works tomorrow. I usually lif the next day. Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:08:49 -0800 From: awinger...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help To: nailtech@googlegroups.com I don't use primer and it doesn't lift. Are you lightly buffing the shine off the top of the nails and around the cuticle area? Where do they start to lift? I think you only have to cure the base for 30 seconds. I usually do one minute becuase I don't have a 30 second option on my lamp. Lorraine can you over cure the gels? What is the clear that you are using? I have used the clear that came with the kit and it worked but I usually use Gelish top it off with the Eco. Angie From: Veronica Mora <surprise...@hotmail.com > To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 4:58:27 PM Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help Here are my steps: 1. take off polish and push cuticles back 2. file nails 3. brush off dust and apply dehydrator 4. apply primer pen 5.apply THIN layer of base (cure 2 mins) 6. apply eco's thick clear and again i apply it thin. I put on about 3 or 4 layers and cure in 2 minutes each. what am i doing wrong? Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:32:00 -0800 From: simplypolis...@ymail.com Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Hi Veronica, What is your prep? Are you stirring the gel really well? Are you applying each coat thinly? How are you applying the base coat? The base coat works best when you use very little and it is "scrubbed" into the nail. Lisa Cianciotti Simply Polished Studio for Nails Mount Pleasant, PA From: Veronica Mora <surprise...@hotmail.com > To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 5:18:13 PM Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help I am having problems having my eco gels stay on. I lift and my clients either lift or pop off with in days. I need help. i dont know if its something that im doing or if its the gels. Please help!!!! Veronica -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to nailtech@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. Lorraine, webgirl www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art www.ScentualSpaProducts.com <<--Enhance the Spa Experience Free Shipping on all orders over $75 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to nailtech@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to nailtech@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nailtech+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en.
