>> NANOG was never meant to be an outages list. >[ citation needed ]
Mission from the NANOG charter: "NANOG is a small venue in which technical matters pertaining to network operations and network technology deployment in Internet providers may be discussed among experts. Such discussions have in the past focused on, but are certainly not limited to, experiences with new protocols and backbone technologies, implications of routing policies on the Internet as a whole, measurement techniques and measurements of Internet health and performance, areas in which inter-provider cooperation can be mutually beneficial (such as NOC coordination or security incident response), and maintaining a competitive and level business environment." Maybe I misspoke or was at least too broad in my statement. Suffice it to say that 40 messages with traceroutes to a website that is having server or software related (and not network or backbone related) issues generating 400,000 emails being sent out to NANOG list members (in a period of 2 hours) is probably one of the reasons list emails are taking 40 minutes to reach some members. There must be a better way in 2009. I know Google is a significant website and relied upon by millions of end-users, but I just don't see value in seeing traceroute upon traceroute from users all over the globe to 10,000 members. Maybe I'm wrong. Open for discussion .. Randy _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
