I have no dog in this fight, as I don't participate in NANOG other than to comment on the mailing list occasionally, and to occasionally try to render or request help (usually offlist).
But I'll comment that from my outsider's view back here in the cheap seats, what has happened is indistinguishable from a coup. There is the lack of information about what really happened; there is the nebulous citation of alleged problems whose severity necessitated this action; there is the marginalization of those asking direct questions; there is the lack of a cogent public plan; there is the reassurance that all will be revealed in good time; and there is the vote to be held to ratify that which is already done. Note carefully: I'm not expressing any opinion about the reality of what's happened, only about its appearance. I don't know what the reality is. I'm not even sure I care, if I put on my selfish hat for a moment: it probably won't matter to me no matter what it turns out to be. (Well, that's not entirely true: I certainly care about many of the people involved, across the board, as they've clearly tried to do the right thing, and in too-many-cases-to-count, they've really worked hard for the mutual benefit of everyone in the community. That means, among many other things, they deserve respect and gratitude, and the benefit of a doubt -- which I note they're getting.) So given that *appearance*, I think it's understandable that some folks have some questions. That could have -- and should have -- been anticipated. Like I said, I can see it from way back here in the cheap seats, so surely those with a much better view should be able to see it too. A simple "here's what we're doing, here's why, here's why now, here's how we think it will go down, here's what we have covered, here's what we're winging, here's the rough plan" could have been written in 15 minutes by anyone involved, and would have neatly dealt with [most of] this up-front. Now before anybody gets too bent out of shape over this: I've done exactly the same thing -- that is, been part of a sweeping reorg that while entirely well-intentioned, and arguably necessary, and in the long run, demonstrably the right move, was botched at the outset because the prime movers behind it didn't communicate clearly *from the beginning*, thus engendering mistrust, confusion, etc. One of the people arguing against that communication? Me. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures