Interesting thoughts - in most consumer devices, the temperature regulation is 
true. Heat's one of the worst enemies of laptop and cellphone batteries, after 
all. In house and datacenter environments for larger units, not really an 
issue. 

For operational spec for a lot of cells I'm used to, I'm used to 0 to 50c for 
design charge range for cells, and -20 to 75 for optimal discharge range. 
Obviously, energy output (and energy to charge) differ across the range, but 
that's well within design specification for the rated lifespans of the cells. 

Long term storage, of course, is different, but that's a much easier solved 
problem, and design specs are often in the -30c to 25c range for optimal 
capacity retention over long term storage. But operationally, 25-50c is 
perfectly fine. Past ... above 5c, I think, you're looking at a 10% capacity 
fluctuation in that 5c to 50c range. 

Of course, there's a ton of other factors that go into such things as well, 
such as actual recovered (discharged) capacity such as current draw, and 
whatnot, other than temperature.

While true, heat is the enemy of lithium batteries of any type, deep 
discharging is the second worst enemy (BMS prevents actual cell damaging deep 
discharge, but you really should never go below 30% of rated capacity if you 
can ever help it - this is the most stressful zone), then charging too rapidly 
- too high rate of charge. 

As always though, it's best to look at the datasheets before making any 
decisions overall, of course. They'll cover all these operational specs and 
more. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tinka <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 8:05 AM
To: Gary Sparkes <[email protected]>; Vasilenko Eduard 
<[email protected]>; North American Network Operators Group 
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Subject: Re: [NANOG] Re: Small Capacity UPS



On 4/9/25 13:49, Gary Sparkes wrote:

> An interesting thing to be concerned about, given average temperature 
> exposures compared to consumer electronics devices with usually inadequate 
> cooling, compared to LiFePo4 in a UPS, which has been my baseline for years 
> now as SLA's age out.

It's often hard to keep Li-Ion batteries at the recommended 25°C. Some 
environments are worse than others, and while Li-Ion batteries can tolerate +/- 
15°C, it's often not recommended. Some active cooling may be required for 
summer, or for perennially warmer regions.

Of course, you also have to think about extremely cool environments. 
Li-Ion batteries do not like to be charged below 0°C. In such cases, better to 
place a heater next to the battery so it can warm up before you start charging 
it. Charging it when it's that cold will lead to plating, which causes short 
circuits and capacity loss.

Mark.
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