This is how it's been for years. On Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 2:19 AM Mike Lyon via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote:
> So if they dont take submissions and they don’t apparently read WHOIS > data, is the end user (eyeballs) basically just screwed and at the mercy of > whatever crappy methodology they use to determine their (crappy) location? > > There has got to be a better way… > > > On Aug 22, 2025, at 23:01, Crist Clark via NANOG <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Just like that other thread, where it turns out he spammers are the > first > > ones to utilize any new anti-spam technology, a good bet a large > percentage > > of the folks who want to upload their own geo-location data are the folks > > trying to circumvent geo-location for whatever reasons folks have to > > circumvent geo-location. If you're the geo-location provider, you're > going > > to need to independently verify geo-location by whatever means you use to > > determine geo-location without submissions. You can't trust submissions, > so > > why take submissions at all? > > > > I'm not saying not geo-locations services shouldn't have any means to > have > > inaccuracies reported. I'm just saying the information they get by such > > means may not be all that valuable or actionable. > > > >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 1:02 PM nanog--- via NANOG < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 22/08/25 07:52, Mike Lyon via NANOG wrote: > >>> One would think that if you are in the business of selling data, > >> specifically, location data, that you would have a link on your website > for > >> people to contact you in regards to updating that data so that the data > you > >> are selling is accurate data. Or do you prefer to sell inaccurate data > or > >> do you just not care about the accuracy of your product? > >> > >> It wouldn't be surprising. Most of capitalism is done for appearances' > >> sake now, especially stuff that nobody will really notice if it's done > >> wrong. Nobody cares if a few hundred people can't use Netflix because it > >> thinks they're in the wrong region - not even Netflix. Those few hundred > >> people might care, but their opinions don't matter. > >> > >> You see this more in security stuff - all theater so somebody can tick a > >> box saying they did security. > >> > >>> > >>> Anyways, i’ll get off of my soap box… > >>> > >>> ***ATTENTION*** Digital Element, Neustar and ipinsight.io folks…. > >>> > >>> How does one report to you inaccurate geolocation data? > >>> > >>> Anyone on list that could possibly help a brother out? > >>> > >>> Thank You, > >>> Mike > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> NANOG mailing list > >>> > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/PFBC3O4OHSJAR2NTRNJMBX7GTGNBOX7Q/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NANOG mailing list > >> > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/MH6TVWNNXQYJY56U2HRJYWAQCAX7HXLV/ > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NANOG mailing list > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/EIN3Z6YBN43GEFTGH4FM52OVBWLJCXLR/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/PFIDBNUE76BT5AMC6XECSTNROUKAOOJJ/
