The monopoly probably exists because it's so expensive to be there. There are a ton of factors. If it was so easy, why don't you start up your own ISP (with blackjack and hookers)?
Dovid - you didn't even answer the first question, why do you need a /29? What problem are you trying to solve with a publicly routable block? On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:13 AM Dovid Bender <[email protected]> wrote: > Not answering for Aaron but I almost have the same issue. Where I am there > is a monopoly. My *ONLY* option is a single ISP with coax. I got a /29 from > them as I needed a few static IP's. I would love if they allowed BGP and > would love it even more if we went back in time 10 years and had access to > fiber..... > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:08 AM Josh Luthman via NANOG < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Aaron, >> >> As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place. >> Second >> why don't you just get your own ASN? >> >> Are you willing to pay more to support v6? Or do you think the ISP should >> add that service for free? >> >> Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet. I >> understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by >> without >> v4. >> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I wish they were dropping in my area. >> > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 >> fiber >> > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they >> said >> > "It's $300/mo". >> > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like >> configuring >> > them, so he set the price really high". >> > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I got >> > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it next >> > year". >> > >> > -A >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly. They were as high as $65 >> last >> > > year. Now, there are offers for $11. Average market price now is in >> the >> > > mid-$20's. All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their inventory. >> > Why >> > > not. >> > > >> > > - Tom >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG < >> > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch of >> > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date. >> > > > >> > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24: >> > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/ >> > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down to >> > $22: >> > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > These guys stopped updating in June: >> > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- >> > > > Mike Hammett >> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > > > http://www.ics-il.com >> > > > >> > > > Midwest-IX >> > > > http://www.midwest-ix.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > NANOG mailing list >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/UWJDG6X3FH73ELJRSEX4O4BIK7CS7EAQ/ >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > NANOG mailing list >> > > >> > > >> > >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/2DP5TTAHK4CN2HXHNLLYN225JNLQYJIO/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NANOG mailing list >> > >> > >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/5D2RDOWMRXX4634VKZO33X4YAR7RYMDK/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NANOG mailing list >> >> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XWAJ5B7ZIBEPUGWIUKS42N3AM76AMWRV/ > > _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/KNZSBHBTEPKMU7KHULFVPENRVXADXEAP/
