It does not for me where remote services  I am using require an IP NOT a
FQDN. Junos, Fortinet, AWS etc.


On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:28 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dovid - use dynamic DNS.  It's generally free and there are lot of free
> options.  That solves the problem without using a /29.  I do exactly this
> myself at home.
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:24 AM Dovid Bender <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:15 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The monopoly probably exists because it's so expensive to be there.
>>> There are a ton of factors.  If it was so easy, why don't you start up your
>>> own ISP (with blackjack and hookers)?
>>>
>> The main ISP's are Optimum and Verizon. Verizon has DSL and never built
>> out to my area. Optimum has fiber down the block but can't be bothered to
>> bring it to mine (why spend the money of there is no one forcing them). If
>> starlink or anyone else had satic IP's I would jump ship.
>>
>>>
>>> Dovid - you didn't even answer the first question, why do you need a
>>> /29?  What problem are you trying to solve with a publicly routable block?
>>>
>> My home IP is white listed in a lot fo equipment. I also connect to
>> customers networks and that requires it's own IP (I can't connect from the
>> same IP that I use for my day to day work).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:13 AM Dovid Bender <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not answering for Aaron but I almost have the same issue. Where I am
>>>> there is a monopoly. My *ONLY* option is a single ISP with coax. I got a
>>>> /29 from them as I needed a few static IP's. I would love if they allowed
>>>> BGP and would love it even more if we went back in time 10 years and had
>>>> access to fiber.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:08 AM Josh Luthman via NANOG <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place.
>>>>> Second
>>>>> why don't you just get your own ASN?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you willing to pay more to support v6?  Or do you think the ISP
>>>>> should
>>>>> add that service for free?
>>>>>
>>>>> Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet.  I
>>>>> understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by
>>>>> without
>>>>> v4.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I wish they were dropping in my area.
>>>>> > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000
>>>>> fiber
>>>>> > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they
>>>>> said
>>>>> > "It's $300/mo".
>>>>> > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like
>>>>> configuring
>>>>> > them, so he set the price really high".
>>>>> > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I
>>>>> got
>>>>> > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it
>>>>> next
>>>>> > year".
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -A
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG <
>>>>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly.  They were as high as $65
>>>>> last
>>>>> > > year.  Now, there are offers for $11.  Average market price now is
>>>>> in the
>>>>> > > mid-$20's.  All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their
>>>>> inventory.
>>>>> > Why
>>>>> > > not.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > - Tom
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a
>>>>> bunch of
>>>>> > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24:
>>>>> > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/
>>>>> > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's
>>>>> down to
>>>>> > $22:
>>>>> > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > These guys stopped updating in June:
>>>>> > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > -----
>>>>> > > > Mike Hammett
>>>>> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> > > > http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Midwest-IX
>>>>> > > > http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>> > > >
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