On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The lesson one should get from all this is that the ultimate harm of > spammers et al is that they are succeeding in corrupting the idea of a > standards-based internet.
The lesson here is that different groups at the same ISPs go to different places Packet pushers go to *NOG. And the abuse desks mostly all go to MAAWG. And any CERTs / security types the ISP has go to FIRST and related events. And most of them never do coordinate internally, run by different groups probably in different cities ... --srs