> On Apr 26, 2019, at 5:49 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
> <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> wrote:
> 
> "AP stated that at the LACNIC meeting has discussed it and they dismissed it 
> as out of scope."
> 
> LACNIC will have the first meeting where this topic will be discussed in two 
> weeks from now. How come an AC member can lie such way?
> 
> If I'm an AC member, or any other similar team, I will make sure to inform 
> myself before stating something like that. In this case there is no excuse, 
> you just need to visit a web page for the LACNIC policy proposals, similar in 
> every RIR.
> 
> Then I continue reading this: "AP stated that she believed that the author 
> was using ARIN to solve their problem."
> 
> How come somebody that doesn't know me, can state that?

I’m not going to go in depth on the above comments.  I’ve received at least one 
off-list inquiry and I’ll also assume no explicit malice here, but as you point 
out, it doesn’t smell tide fresh :)

The linked AC minutes page does say "These minutes are DRAFT. They have been 
reviewed by the ARIN Advisory Council prior to posting. These minutes will 
remain draft until they are reviewed and approved by the ARIN Advisory Council 
at their next regularly scheduled meeting.”

I have pointed out another area that I consider suspect off-list, I will set a 
calendar item to watch for new minutes to see if they are approved with 
revisions.  Hopefully there’s misunderstandings here, but I’m also not 
confident as much of the conversation seems to have a disjoint with operational 
realities.  (This isn’t anything new with ARIN btw, they’ve long been concerned 
about interacting with systems that are operational as doing that may mean 
staffing for on call or other functions).

I’m hoping to see some updates/corrections to the text, so taking a snapshot 
may be useful to watch for the corrections to the draft minutes.

I’m also debating if I spend the weekend with family or pinging everyone I know 
on the AC (which is more than one) about these issues.  Either way, I’ll pick 
this up “soon” on my side.

I do consider that abuse of ARIN allocated resources (coke/pepsi for numbering 
or other integers for AS4_PATH) something that ARIN can efforts to enforce 
revocation in the case of violation of the RSA.

- Jared



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