On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn <aa...@heyaaron.com> wrote: > > Why isn't there a well-known anycast ping address similar to > CloudFlare/Google/Level 3 DNS, or sorta like the NTP project? > Get someone to carve out some well-known IP and allow every ISP on the planet > to add that IP to a router or BSD box somewhere on their network? Allow > product manufacturers to test connectivity by sending pings to it. It would > survive IoT manufacturers going out of business. > Maybe even a second well-known IP that is just a very small webserver that > responds with {'status': 'ok'} for testing if there's HTTP/HTTPS connectivity. >
It sounds like, to me anyway, you'd like to copy/paste/sed the AS112 project's goals, no? > -A > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM William Allen Simpson > <william.allen.simp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 4/29/20 8:53 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> > I suppose it's time for a more public: >> > "Hey, when you want to test a service, please take the time to test >> > that service on it's service port/protocol" >> > >> > Testing; "Is the internet up?" >> > by pinging a DNS server, is ... not great ;( >> > I get that telling 'joe/jane random user' this is hard/painful/ugh... >> > :( (haha, also look at cisco meraki devices!! "cant ping google dns, >> > internet is down") >> > >> > Sorry :( >> > >> Just as an anecdote: once upon a time I had a television that began >> reporting it couldn't work anymore, because the Internet was down. >> >> After resorting to packet tracing, discovered that it was pinging >> (IIRC) speedtest.napster.com to decide. Napster had gone belly-up. >> >> Fortunately, it had a 2 year warranty, took it back to Best Buy >> with about a month to go. >> >> Now think about the hundreds of thousands of customers who didn't >> know how to diagnose the issue, or the warranty had expired, and >> had to buy a new smart TV? >> >> Tried to get the FTC interested, no joy. Congress made noises >> about passing a law requiring software updates (especially for >> security issues), but still nothing on that either. >> >> Besides, what are we going to do after Google goes belly-up? ;)