Even worse, some don’t even bother taking you off a list or correcting their records. In these cases I’ve had great luck once our lawyers get involved, but that really only works for US-based companies.
Pretty sure the last company who used our IP space was just wrecking the internet for fun, took a while to get off of some large blocklists. At least it was an easy business justification to rapidly deploy IPv6… Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2023, at 19:50, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’ve come to the conclusion that the geo-ip feed companies don’t give a damn > about the legitimacy of their information and don’t research any of it. They > just wait for the end user to complain to make the change. > > Had one today, in fact. > > They’re lame. > > -Mike > > > >> On Jan 20, 2023, at 16:33, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote: >> >> I’ve been seeing an increasing problem with IP space not having the ability >> to be used due to the behaviors of either geolocation or worse, people >> blocking IP space after it’s been in-use for a period of time. >> >> Before I go back to someone at ARIN and say “your shiny unused 4.10 IP >> space” is non-functional and am at a place where I need to >> start/restart/respawn the timer, I have a few questions for people: >> >> 1) Do you see 23.138.114.0/24 in any feeds from a security provider that say >> it can/should be blocked? If so, I’d love to hear from you to track this >> down. Over the new year we had some local schools start to block this IP >> space. >> >> 2) many companies have geolocation feeds and services that exist and pull in >> data. The reputable people are easy to find, there are those that are >> problematic from time-to-time (I had a few customers leave Sling due to the >> issues with that service). >> >> 3) Have you had similar issues? How are you chasing all the issues? We’ve >> seen things from everything works except uploading check images to banks, to >> other financial service companies block the space our customers are in. If >> we move them to another range this solves the problem. >> >> 4) We do IPv6, these places aren’t IPv6 modern at all, so that’s no help. >> >> 5) IRR+geofeed are published of course. I’m thinking that it might be >> worthwhile that IP space have published placeholders when it’s well >> understood, eg: ARIN 4.9 space, I can predict what our next allocation would >> be, it would be great to have it be pre-warmed. >> >> I’ve only seen a few complaints against all our IP space over time, so I >> don’t think there’s anything malicious coming from the IP space to justify >> it, but it’s also possible they didn’t make it through. >> >> If you’re with the FKA Savvis side, can you also ping me, I’d like to see if >> you can reach out to our most recent complaint source to see if we can find >> who is publishing this. Same if you’re with Merit or the Michigan Statewide >> Educational Network - your teachers stopped being able to post to >> powerschool for their students over the new year break. They’ve fed it up >> to their tech people towards the ISD. Details available off-list. >> >> Any insights are welcome, and as I said, I’d like to understand where the >> source list is as it starts out working then gradually breaks, so someone is >> publishing things and they are going out further. >> >> - Jared
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