Response from my Cisco rep: "I has to be "Cisco Certified" refurbished. If it isn't it cannot have Smartnet placed on it without an inspection (which comes with an inspection fee) and the licensing paid for as well. When you combine these two cost items together with the selling price of the gear you're about back to the cost of a brand new piece of equipment. The most difficult part of buying this "gray market" or even "black market" gear is that you don't really know where it came from. The Department of Defense has found some of this "black market" gear (a fake) in the networks of their vendors. In some cases they have found a "phone home" feature that pokes a hole in the firewall and then allows outside users (Chinese) into the network. Once in they can siphon off data from your network."
Thanks, Matt Matt Adcock, Manager 334-481-6629 (w) / 334-312-5393 (m) / madc...@hisna.com 700 Hyundai Blvd. / Montgomery, AL 36105 P The average office worker uses 10,000 sheets of paper = 1.2 trees, per year By not printing this email, you’ve saved paper, ink and millions of trees From: Adcock, Matt [HISNA] Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 7:17 PM To: Seth Mattinen; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cisco hardware question That's very true. They ship some out one door for Cisco and some out another door for gray/black market. One other thing to note - the discounts shown on the Web site previously mentioned here are not that greater than the ones I know Cisco gives many companies. Is it really worth taking a chance with one of the most critical parts of your infrastructure to save 10% or 15%. In my industry (automotive) and I think in many others the answer is absoutely not. Matt The information in this email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this message or attachment is strictly prohibited. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. If you believe that you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the email and all of its attachments From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 6:20 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cisco hardware question On 3/4/2010 16:16, Ricky Beam wrote: > > Not necessarily. I've seen a lot of boxes that appear to have come > "direct" from Cisco, however, I know they came from a wholesaler's > warehouse. (only one came direct from Cisco. from the factory in Malaysia.) > A lot of counterfeits come direct from the factory, too. ;) ~Seth
<<inline: vertical_bar.gif>>
<<inline: logo.gif>>
<<inline: horizontal_bar.gif>>
