On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely <para...@nac.net> wrote:

> What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a website, 
> and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site is partially 
> not working and he's pissed.
> 
> imho.  The days of having public records like whois/rwhois available has 
> passed.  The data use to be protected with a simple clue test.  Only the clue 
> minded folks knew about the data, and were pretty responsible with it.  Now 
> anyone can look it up.  We use to use that data to be able to directly 
> communicate with another provider for a serious problem.  It was great 
> knowing exactly how to get a hold of someone, and not have to forage your way 
> through tech support... noc.. etc..
> 
> Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse contact', 
> and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the point in that?
> 
> Why can't we implement a method where you have to be a registered, and 
> paying, user/member with an AS number to be able to get IP whois 'contact' 
> info?  Sure list my name and company.  But keep my email and phone number 
> private.  In fact show me a web log of all registered users that looked me up.
> 
> I doubt that will ever happen.  So it's time for me to update my arin contact 
> as this past weekend I got exactly that 2am porn call and it was quite 
> disturbing which website was being referenced. In all my years I knew there 
> was some crazy stuff out there, but this took the cake.

You can change anything you want. ARIN & ICANN are both member organizations. 
Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are changed.

Even better, only the "clued" (and paid) get to vote. So it is exactly what you 
wanted.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


> On 7/25/2013 7:02 PM, Justin Vocke wrote:
>> Sent this little e-mail to ARIN:
>> 
>> I'm not sure that you guys can do anything about this, but it's worth
>> looking into. I registered AS626XX a week ago, and since it's registration,
>> I've been getting calls from "wholesale" carriers trying to get me to
>> purchase IP transit from them. Someone is obviously using your database of
>> contact information to generate sales leads.
>> 
>> 512-377-6827 was one of the numbers trying to get more information about my
>> network and how they could "help" me.
>> 
>> My guess is someone is using your mass whois database, looking at the most
>> recently issued/created AS numbers, and cold calling.
>> 
>> Just thought I'd pass this along.
>> ---------
>> 
>> Due to the amount of calls I've received, I'm guessing its probably a good
>> idea to remove my contact info from the registration and setup role's
>> instead.
>> 
>> Does this sorta thing happen frequently with new registrations or did I
>> just draw the short straw?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Justin
> 
> 


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