Hi Jared, I know you will see the irony in my next statement..
Brett: you should talk to level 3 again, they are looking to connect to anyone to help with Netflix connectivity. http://blog.level3.com/global-connectivity/verizons-accidental-mea-culpa/ The above URL is a great place to start. On Jul 17, 2014 5:21 AM, "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2014, at 9:48 PM, George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> On Jul 15, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Brett Glass <na...@brettglass.com> wrote: > >> > >> At 05:10 PM 7/15/2014, George Herbert wrote: > >> > >>> Layer3 runs right through Laramie. With a redundant run slightly > south. What conversations have you had with them?... > >> > >> At first, Level3 completely refused us. Then, they quoted us a rate > several times higher than either of our existing upstreams for bandwidth. > Even at that price, they refused to let us link to them via wireless > (requiring us to either buy easements or buy land adjacent to their > building, which sits on rented land). > > > > Local fiber provider? How does everyone else tie in to Layer3 in > Laramie? > > > > And, find a Layer3 reseller who can handle the cost problem. There are > a bunch. I can recommend one privately if you can't find one. > > > > Buying retail markups from the vendor who wants to sell wholesale only > does not scale. > > The problem is partly a technological one. If you have a fiber span from > east<-> west it doesn't make sense to OEO when you can just plop in a bidi > amplifier. That OEO cost isn't "very high", but hitting every city like > that becomes expensive quickly. This is why your 10G from EQUINIX-SJ to > EQUNIX-ASH costs the same as the 10G loop from the DC to your local office. > The cost is the OEO ends. If you're not in a fiber rich environment you > are screwed. I have at&t fiber less than 1200 feet from me but they do not > offer any non-dialtone services in my area. I'm all-poles to the end of > the new comcast segment as well but due to a mid-part that doesn't have the > density required to meet their metrics there continue to be only fixed > wireless choices here. > > Others have suggested the UBNT gear. I'm using it myself, but I'll say.. > it still leaves a lot to be desired. It's mostly meant for use in less > developed countries. Their latest 5Ghz access gear often takes 6-12 months > to get FCC certified to operate in the full 5ghz band. With the recent > opening all the way down to 5.1 this spring with the FCC that certification > process restarted. They are great for hopping short distances at high > speeds in the US, but are very susceptible to interference. (The NanoBeam, > now PowerBeam is a bit better). > > my backhaul is 3 miles and works well for my use case. Cheaper than the > T1 before and higher speeds. There's a lot of people in wispa around the > edges you can find doing things, and many others doing it that aren't in > wispa. Most are small businesses (Some are larger) and suffer from poor > business choices, but the biggest problem I see is lack of ability to get > high speed access as Brett is commenting. Prices may be low at the major > DCs but out in these areas expect $10/Mb or more, sometimes not including > loop. > > - Jared