> On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:19 AM, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> The problem is partly a technological one.  If you have a fiber span from 
> east<-> west it doesn't make sense to OEO when you can just plop in a bidi 
> amplifier.

Almost certainly, most of the fiber going through the building just hits an 
amplifier (or nothing and isn't broken out there).  Yes.

But they quoted a price for access, and some research turned up signs other 
people are doing big fiber out of that location, so my assumption at this point 
is that at least one pair each direction down the fiber is terminating in some 
router there.  Possibly a fiber level wave device but seems more likely a 
router.

Unless that assumption is not true, this comes down to "We don't want your 
antenna on our roof*, come in via fiber like everyone else" and not having met 
the right Layer 3 reseller yet.  It's not sounding at all like "we have to 
break open a fiber for you and put in a router".

(The rest of this indirectly aimed back at Brett, not Jared )

It's not 1995.  Even little ISPs need to get aware and step their game up.  
Treating transit or uplink like a 1995 problem IS a short road to damnation now.

Seriously.  The net is changing. The customers are changing, the customers uses 
and expectations are changing.  Change with it, or step out of the way.  You 
are not an exception because you're rural. You've just got a density and size 
lag.  That is temporary at best.  Keep up.  This is critical national 
telecommunications infrastructure.  Modern teens have mostly never used 
landline phones and are not OK with inadequate bandwidth at home or on the road.

Being in Laramie is not a shield against change.


* probably expands to "...you aren't big enough for me to bother working with 
my facility staff and filling out the paperwork to get an exception or lease 
amendment or permit and let you put an antenna on our roof, sorry", but this is 
an educated guess not informed.


George William Herbert
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