Turns out my information from the grape vine was wrong *bows head in shame*.

Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 21 Jan 2016, at 19:48, Matthew D. Hardeman <mharde...@ipifony.com> wrote:
> 
> That’s an excellent point, actually.
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Make the AS path longer, losing traffic, and therefore revenue?
>> 
>> Why would they do that?
>> 
>> The twtelecom customers cannot multi-home (most of them anyway). Most of 
>> 3549’s traffic has other paths to the Internet.
>> 
>> -- 
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <mharde...@ipifony.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was actually surprised they didn’t just leave GBLX customers on AS3549, 
>>> kill all external AS3549 peerings, and treat AS3549 downline as a Level3 
>>> customer, accepting L3 and GBLX communities from GBLX customers.
>>> 
>>> That seems more along the lines of what they’re doing with the AS4323 TW 
>>> Telecom customers.  (Though, in fairness, AS3356 has always carried AS4323 
>>> as a customer as far as I recall.)  It will be interesting to see if 
>>> whether they kill off AS4323 peerings.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Marty Strong <ma...@cloudflare.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on the market and how far along their migration is going. In 
>>>> experience with GTT (AS4436) they’re still not finished migrating 
>>>> everything to AS3257.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Marty Strong
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>>>> Network Engineer
>>>> ma...@cloudflare.com
>>>> +44 7584 906 055
>>>> smartflare (Skype)
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13335
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 19:12, Matthew D. Hardeman <mharde...@ipifony.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Intriguing.  If it were only that though, wouldn’t they just still pick 
>>>>> it up via TeliaSonera IC?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did notice that in the past few months, TeliaSonera has been dropping 
>>>>> AS3549 from spots where they had session with both AS3549 and with AS3356 
>>>>> and now reaches AS3549 via AS3356.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Marty Strong <ma...@cloudflare.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve heard from the grape vine that this is due to the GBLX to Level3 
>>>>>> transition, and it’s in fact paid IP transit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Marty Strong
>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>>>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>>> ma...@cloudflare.com
>>>>>> +44 7584 906 055
>>>>>> smartflare (Skype)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13335
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 18:37, Matthew D. Hardeman <mharde...@ipifony.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yesterday I was looking at some of the IPv4 and IPv6 session summaries 
>>>>>>> on http://lg.he.net and saw that both the Equinix Los Angeles and 
>>>>>>> Equinix Ashburn site routers have new IPv4 and IPv6 sessions (not yet 
>>>>>>> running, but administratively up for about 6 days now) configured for 
>>>>>>> AS3356.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know they already peer IPv6, though not at those sites.  Is this the 
>>>>>>> first hint that HE and Level3 are coming around on an IPv4 and IPv6 
>>>>>>> peering agreement?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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