The tunnelbroker service acts exactly like a VPN. It allows you, from any arbitrary location in the world with an IPv4 address, to bring traffic out via one of HE's 4 POP's, while completely masking your actual location.
*Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Blair Trosper <blair.tros...@gmail.com> wrote: > It should be pointed out that -- the SPECIFIC accusation from Netflix -- is > that people on TunnelBroker are on a VPN or proxy unblocker. > > The data does not bear that out. Hash tag just saying. > > </soapbox> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Ricky Beam <jfb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 19:41:14 -0400, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote: > > > >> What lie? Truly who is lying here. Not the end user. Not HE. There > is > >> no requirement to report physical location. > >> > > > > The general lie that is IP Geolocation. HE only has what I tell them > (100% > > unverified), and what MaxMind (et.al.) tell them (~95% unverified.) They > > know my IPv4 endpoint address, but that doesn't give them a concrete > street > > address -- they're guessing in exactly the same way everyone else does. > And > > more to the point, HE doesn't share that information with anyone. (whois > is > > populated with your account information. they don't ask where your > tunnels > > are going.) > > > > Are they legally required to go to this level? > >> > > > > Possibly, but Netflix isn't going to push this. Win or Lose, they still > > lose distribution rights. > > > > Netflix (and their licensees) know people are using HE tunnels to get > >>> around region restrictions. Their hands are tied; they have to show > >>> they're doing something to limit this. > >>> > >> > >> No, they do not know. The purpose of HE tunnels is to get IPv6 service. > >> The fact that the endpoints are in different countries some of the time > >> is incidental to that. > >> > > > > YES. THEY. DO. There have been entire COMPANIES doing this. (which is > > likely what sparked this level of response.) Neither HE nor Netflix are > > naming names, but a short walk through the more colorful parts of the > > internet should be enlightening. > > > > Garbage. You have to establish the tunnel which requires registering > >> a account. It also requires a machine at the other end. Virtual > >> or physical they don't move around the world in a DDNS update. The > >> addresses associated with a tunnel don't change for the life of > >> that tunnel. > >> > > > > True. 'tho, you can list any nonsense address you want. They do nothing > to > > validate it. (Use my favorite BS address: Independence MT -- pop: zero. > > It's a dirt road across a mountain in the middle of absolutely nowhere. > > Google it!) > > > > The tunnel endpoint (your IPv4 address) is known only to HE, and not > > exposed to ANYONE. That's not going to EVER change. Once your tunnel has > > been setup, that address ("Client IPv4 Address") is not set in stone. > > People have dynamic addresses, and HE recognizes this, so there are > > numerous methods to change the tunnel endpoint address. (tunnel > > configuration page, update through an http(s) request, etc.) THUS, a > tunnel > > can move; it can be terminated anywhere, at anytime. Not only can one > > update the endpoint to a different address on the same box, but to a > > completely different box entirely. > > > > Furthermore, one account can have several tunnels through different > > servers that present addresses from different regions. Where I appear to > be > > in the world, thus, depends on which tunnel I have enabled. (and in which > > countries HE has prefixes, which currently appears to be 4) > > >