Hi Eric,

I suspect that things have been quiet due to various holidays and post- holiday torpor.

I am working on an updated NAT66 document to address the issues that have been raised with the previous version. It is also likely to contain a few unresolved issues, where there were multiple options available and no clear consensus on which to follow. Once I get out the new document, I expect that there will be further discussion.

I also hope that we will hold a BOF in San Francisco to discuss this further. I will be submitting a preliminary BOF request, including a draft charter for proposed work, to the Transport ADs by the preliminary BOF request deadline (Monday, I think), and I will send it to this list too (of course).

We have decisions to make on several levels.

1) Do we want to have a BOF in San Francisco to discuss this topic? If so, what should be on the agenda?

2) Do we have consensus that work in this area should be done in the IETF? This decision probably won't be made until after we have additional list discussion and a BOF.

3) If we do charter work in this area, is the draft Fred and I have written a good place to start? Or should we pursue a different approach?

I'd invite discussion of any of these topics, or related topics, on the list.

Margaret


On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Eric Klein wrote:


As there has been no discussion on the list for over a month, can someone tell me where we stand on forming a census?


On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 21:02, Margaret Wasserman <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I am sending this message to several large groups of people with considerable overlap in an effort to reach everyone who has been participating (actively or passively) in the NAT66 discussions. PLEASE, PLEASE do not reply to this full list. Send any replies to the new nat66 discussion list (cc:ed) or to me privately.

In response to concerns that have been raised about discussing IPv6- to-IPv6 NAT on the behave WG mailing list, we have started a new mailing list for the ongoing NAT66 discussion, [email protected]. The purpose of this list is to discuss the needs that may drive the adoption of IPv6-to-IPv6 NAT, and to discuss solutions to meet those needs, possibly including specification of an IPv6 NAT mechanism, that will work better and be less harmful to the Internet than direct ports of IPv4 NA(P)T functionality. Although we will see how the conversation evolves in the upcoming weeks, our current expectation is that we will hold a BOF at IETF 74 in San Francisco to discuss this topic and to determine if there is consensus that the IETF should pursue any work in this area.

It is not our intention that this new list will be used for discuss of IPv4/IPv6 transition mechanisms, even those that involve translation. Discussion of the v4v6translation work will remain in the behave WG, where it is a chartered work item.

If you would like to join the nat66 mailing list list or read the list archives, you can do so via the following URL:

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nat66

If you would like to actively contribute to the discussion, I would suggest that you start by reading the following documents:

- RFC 4864:  Local Network Protection for IPv6
 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4864.txt?number=4864

- Renumbering still needs work
 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-00.txt

- IPv6-to-IPv6 Network Address Translation (NAT66) -- now somewhat out-of-date
 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4864.txt?number=4864

- IETF 73 behave WG Presentation on NAT66 -- more up-to-date
 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/behave-14.pdf

Then, come join the discussion on the [email protected] mailing list.

Margaret

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