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On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Keith Moore wrote:

> Why is there a need for such a concept as "IPv6 realm"?
> 
> It seems to me that if we ever create IPv6 realms in the sense that realms 
> exist in IPv4 (i.e. if we make IPv6 addresses ambiguous), we've irrevocably 
> broken IPv6.
> 
> And if we end up creating a subtly different concept in IPv6 - something like 
> realms without the potential for address assignment conflicts - it will be 
> confusing to call such things realms.
> 
> But I really think the right thing to do is to make explicit that there is 
> only one "realm" for the entire IPv6 address space.
> 
> Keith
>> We got a definition for "IPv4 realm", based on RFC 2663 (but also RFC 3103).
>> Both RFC's are IPv4 oriented, not providing an explicit definition  for an 
>> "IPv6 realm".
>>  
>> This question might be related to NAT66, because the IPv4 realm concept is 
>> originating from NAT44.
>>  
>> Does anyone know a correspondent definition/reference for IPv6 realm?
>>  
>> If not, I'd like to offer an initial proposal for discussion, - a common 
>> realm term for IPv4 and IPv6: 
>> 
>> (IPv4 or IPv6 address) realm: is defined as a set of addresses, which share 
>> all a common prefix, that are mutually reachable (thus, within a single IP 
>> routing domain).
>>  
>> Note: "IPv6 realm" definition based on the GLOBAL UNICAST ADDRESS format (ยง 
>> 2.5.4/RFC 4291) because this is a hierarchical format using a "global 
>> routing prefix", which is assigned to a "site" (i.e. sth like a REALM).
>> Comments would be appreciated,
>> Albrecht
>> _____
>> RFC 2663 IP Network Address Translator (NAT) Terminology and Considerations
>> 2.1. Address realm or realm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    An address realm is a network domain in which the network addresses
>>    are uniquely assigned to entities such that datagrams can be routed
>>    to them. Routing protocols used within the network domain are
>>    responsible for finding routes to entities given their network
>>    addresses. Note that this document is limited to describing NAT in
>>    IPv4 environment and does not address the use of NAT in other types
>>    of environment. (e.g. IPv6 environments)
>> 
>>     
>> RFC 3103 Realm Specific IP: Protocol Specification
>> 3.  Terminology
>>    Private Realm
>> 
>>       A routing realm that uses private IP addresses from the ranges
>>       (10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16) specified in
>>       [
>> RFC1918
>> ], or addresses that are non-routable from the Internet.
>> 
>>    Public Realm
>> 
>>       A routing realm with unique network addresses assigned by the
>>       Internet Assigned Number Authority (IANA) or an equivalent address
>>       registry.
>> 
>> 
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