There is a "SellingAgile" or "SellingXP" group that is low activity 
right now. Something I'd like to see on THAT group would be a ban on 
"that won't work" responses (which I've done a few times). I would 
instead like to see "here's something that builds on that idea and 
would be better for these reasons".

On Dec 2, 2004, at 12:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> Quoting "J. B. Rainsberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> I don't mean to be rude, but have you looked around? The whole damn
>> mailing list has been asking that exact question since its inception.
>> The tone of your question suggests that we're not trying to move in 
>> that
>> direction, which couldn't be further from the truth. There's only so
>> many times I can stand revisiting the same old questions being asked 
>> by
>> people who think they're the first to ask them.
>> -- 
>> J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger
>> Diaspar Software Services
>> http://www.diasparsoftware.com
>> Author, JUnit Recipes: Practical Methods for Programmer Testing
>>
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> J.B.
>
> Thanks for the note.  I wasn't trying to be rude either.  I was trying 
> to
> explore the possibility that some part of the resistance to XP could 
> be that
> many software developers believe that they are doing the best that 
> they can
> within their environment.  They are constantly trying to improve, but 
> those
> improvements are often toward more process, where we suggest less.
>
> Along the way, I related a concrete example from my experience, of the 
> depth of
> resistance in my little corner of the world.  The discussion quickly 
> veered off
> course to take up my pedigree as a salesman.  Of course I'm a lousy 
> salesman,
> I'm an INTJ computer geek!  I am not accusing or contentious when I am 
> talking
> with potential customers.  I do admit to being a smart*ss at times.  I 
> promise
> not to bring up how difficult it can be to sell XP ever again.  We can 
> let that
> 800 pound gorilla relax over in the corner.
>
> GB.
>
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